2025 Third Quarter Overleaves Imperatives

Presented by Stephen Cocconi

Part 1 – Michael’s Consortium Overview

Part 2 – Audience Q & A

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Summary of Main Points for 3rd Quarter Michael Night

Stephen hosted a meeting to discuss the Michael Approach, global challenges, and personal growth strategies in the context of upcoming societal changes. The discussion covered topics such as emotional literacy, political landscapes, environmental concerns, and the importance of taking action despite difficult circumstances. Participants were encouraged to confront issues, maintain hope, and focus on personal experiences of growth while navigating the complexities of a changing world.

Next steps

• Jillian: Continue advocacy work at Immigration Court while maintaining personal safety boundaries
• Stephen: Post meeting transcripts and recordings on the website within a week
• Lori: Create educational video content about acupressure points for women’s health, considering safety and privacy measures
• Sarah: Continue providing technical support for future meetings and assist with participant issues
• Team: Review personal emergency preparedness and consider learning self-defense skills as discussed.
• Team: Look for opportunities to engage in local community activism and support collective actions rather than focusing solely on national issues
• Team: Consider sourcing produce from local farmers’ markets instead of commercial stores for better quality food

Opening Remarks by Stephen…Then meeting begins.

Stephen welcomes participants to the meeting and introduces Sarah as the co-host assisting with logistical issues. He explains that the session will focus on presenting information from the Michaels Consortium about the year so far and the upcoming quarter, using overleaves as a descriptor and context. Stephen advises participants to text Sarah directly in the chat if they encounter any problems during the meeting.

Navigating Change in 2025

Stephen discusses the concept of the ego, personality, and essence in the Michael Approach. He emphasizes that the ego is not an enemy but a guard dog trying to protect us, and that neither ego nor essence is more valid than the other. Stephen advises recognizing the source of inner voices and working with the ego by acknowledging its warnings while seeking guidance from essence. He encourages making conscious choices in response to fear rather than reacting reflexively. Stephen then introduces the topic of 2025, describing it as a year of variability and volatility, marking the beginning of a 25-year period of significant change for humanity. He uses the metaphor of a complex pipe organ to illustrate the many choices and variations available in navigating this period, emphasizing that while there are many factors at play, it is not chaotic or out of control. Stephen suggests that learning to make specific micro-choices will be key to creating harmony and reducing fear in the face of these changes.

Emotional Empowerment and Forward Action

Stephen discusses the current global and personal challenges, emphasizing the importance of emotional literacy and taking action despite discomfort. He encourages people to speak up, confront their emotions, and engage in collective activities that focus on the future. Stephen warns against getting lost in distractions and suggests focusing on manageable, local issues. He advises setting reasonable limits and boundaries to avoid being overwhelmed or taken advantage of. Stephen also highlights the importance of humor and not taking offense as ways to empower oneself in difficult situations. He cautions against nostalgia and sentimentality, urging people to move forward rather than looking back.

Modern Leadership and Economic Challenges

Stephen discusses the differences between Hitler and current world leaders, emphasizing that modern leaders lack principles and are focused on self-enrichment. He warns against false optimism and encourages effort and courage in facing new challenges. Stephen then criticizes excessive materialism and consumerism, urging people to focus on emotional fulfillment rather than accumulating possessions. He concludes by discussing the concept of universal basic income as a potential solution to address wealth disparities and promote egalitarianism in mature soul societies.

Productive Anger and Action

The group discusses the importance of anger as a valid emotion and a motivating force for action. Stephen encourages participants to harness their anger productively rather than suppressing it. Brad expresses fear about potential backlash for creating a video on acupressure techniques that could help women regulate their periods, but Stephen reassures him that the likelihood of personal danger is low. Russ shares his anger about recent events and the misrepresentation of military technology he  helped develop. The discussion emphasizes the need to channel anger into decisive action while maintaining clarity and determination. Kerrin notes that anger has become her default emotion and suggests that high cortisol levels may contribute to increased irritability.

Political Reforms and Health Insights

Stephen discusses the current political landscape, noting that while there are positive movements like Bernie Sanders and AOC’s successful rallies in conservative areas, and progressive victories like in New York City, these forces are not yet cohesive. He explains that the Democratic party needs to confront directly their own participation with wealth, and then virtually attack the insanity of income discrepancy.

Reform and the Next Generation

Reform and reorient itself to a newer generation. Stephen also expresses concern about the potential for the next presidential election to be disrupted, urging people to be vigilant. Additionally, he emphasizes the importance of personal health, criticizing the American diet and suggesting that animal proteins, despite ethical concerns, still represent the best foundation for a healthy diet.

Cortisol, Stress, and Public Lands

Stephen discusses the relationship between cortisol, stress, and cognitive dissonance. He explains that managing stress and addressing internal conflicts can lower cortisol levels, which he refers to as the “cognitive dissonance hormone.” The conversation then shifts to the topic of national parks and public lands. Stephen clarifies that while national parks are unlikely to be sold, public lands may face privatization through the sale of timber and mineral rights. He emphasizes the importance of confronting these issues and maintaining hope as an act of defiance against potential negative outcomes.

Declining Quality of Organic Produce

Angela expresses concern about the declining quality and taste of fruits and vegetables, including organic produce. She notes that many items, even from reputable stores like Whole Foods, are often unripe, sour, or have strange aftertastes. Stephen confirms that organic standards have been watered down by the USDA. Angela’s experience highlights a broader issue of deteriorating food quality, which is particularly challenging for those who cannot afford premium produce options.

Food Quality and Social Justice

Stephen advises Angela to find a local shopper for farmers’ markets to get better quality food. He explains that soil depletion, agribusiness practices, and genetic modification have negatively impacted food quality in the US. Jillian shares concerns about tech billionaires attempting to buy public land for private fiefdoms and the mistreatment of migrants in California. She recounts confronting immigration officials about their dehumanizing behavior towards migrants, which Stephen commends as an example of emotional literacy and compassionate truth-telling.

Elites’ Downfall and Societal Upheaval

Stephen discusses the challenges of confronting powerful elites, suggesting that their downfall will likely come from within their own ranks rather than external opposition. He predicts significant societal upheaval, including population reduction through various means such as famine, disease, and war. Stephen also mentions the potential for increased imprisonment and the creation of concentration camps in the United States. He notes that Jillian’s white, nominally Christian background may offer some protection in this scenario.

Hope and Action in Challenging Times

The group discusses the importance of hope and taking action despite challenging circumstances. Stephen emphasizes that hope is a warrior’s emotion and encourages participants to be proactive in shaping their future. The conversation touches on various topics, including gun ownership, global political trends, and environmental concerns. Stephen notes that about 40% of parallel realities are progressing positively towards mature soul status, an improvement from earlier in the year. He concludes by reminding participants to focus on personal experiences of growth and unexpected
opportunities, urging them to act and set an example for others rather than waiting passively for change.

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Third Quarter Overleaves Review

June 27, 2025

Transcript by ZOOM Edited Susan A. Flow

Stephen:  It’ll be interesting to see how everyone is being asked to get used to anger. And using it proactively.  Anyway, they’ll get to that tonight, but they were having a little chat with me these last few days about all this, and saying: “Well, you know, it’s one of the emotions, and it’s got a use.”

So…. the love and light, the period for love and light has gone by as far as making the Soul Age transition.   The old way is…. usually fight to the death.

But since that isn’t the way we want to go, you fight for a principle instead.

James:  I wrote a good one today. “Not everybody can like you. You’re not ice cream.”

Jillian: I have a new term. I made up a new term. Which suddenly is taking off. I’ve been doing a lot of protesting  and this week I’ve been protesting in front of the immigration court.

And somebody was hassling… one of the ICE guys was getting really violent, and I said, “Hey, don’t be an ICE Hole.” And, then everybody started chiming in, ice hole, ice hole, ice hole, and I thought, “Okay, so I’m going to make a sign with that.”

I would much rather be….love and light, but I’m finding myself, saying that my…. anger is not my default.  But you really don’t want to cross me.

Stephen:  All right, we’ll wait just a couple more minutes here, folks, and then we will go ahead and start.

And congratulations, Jillian, on your new meme. And in the world… yeah, in the world of intellectual property, I think you should get it out there, you know. Put a little copyright C under it.

Jillian: I don’t need to own it.  I just need, you know, to get it out.

Stephen:  But just from the standpoint of having a little fun with verbiage and doing things that, you know, and all that, so…. you get to have the ownership. Since that’s where the world is right now, we’re doing battle in the courts. Instead of more real life stuff. You know, we’re claiming, instead of claiming territory, we’re claiming intellectual property  and you know, using much more symbolic things than we ever did historically. Not to say that the real stuff and real killing still doesn’t go on. But, uh, the bigger stuff seems to be happening and it’s going to take, a descent into ourselves to rise up and transcend.

Okay. Well, hello to Kath and Connie, and Richard, and Barbara. And Karen, good to see you. Um, Nan, as always. Susan made it. She helped me literally make sure this new room was working earlier, so I’m glad to report that.

Stephen:   All right. So…. Again, I’ll do a few introductions about tonight  Many of you have been here before with me during this.  Tonight, Sarah is the co-host assisting me. On any of the logistical things that may be happening as we go through this. So, if there is a problem that you may have. I advise you to text  Sarah directly in the chat.

And perhaps she might be able to assist. At least many of you are getting on here. Welcome, Deborah, Jeanne, Joe, Kathryn, and Richard, too, and so we are almost a complete.

In any case, as we’ve done before, you know that Michael Nights are usually presented in such a way as I present Michael’s Consortium, giving you information around both the year so far, but also the upcoming quarter. And how it looks in regard to using the Overleaves as a descriptor and as a context for what you might expect and how you might go.

Remember, we deal with in the Applied Michael Approach, which is the aspect of the Michael teaching through me. We talk about the motives of Essence, personality, and Ego. And I wanted to speak on behalf of the Ego, because tonight, many of the things that you’ll hear. Will obviously not only trigger egos but it will also help you to understand that your ego is not your enemy. It is your guard dog. It is your defender. It is trying to assist you in coping with overwhelming circumstances.

Chief Features are the primary strategies that an ego has or utilizes. Now, the personality is what you as a conscious being, get to operate with. You… it’s the folding place between your deeper intuitions of your Essence messages coming down and your ego warnings about its fears, concerns, and so forth.

And what I’m about to say may surprise some of you. Neither is more valid than the other. But what’s really important to note is what source that voice is coming from. Because if you note the source of where the voice is coming from you can at least go in and work with it at a deeper level. Working with the ego is essentially going in and honoring your guard dog’s warning. Because it has a desire to keep you safe. Even if it’s method, strategy, or a reactions are imbalanced, over the top. And seemingly not rational. It is doing the best it can, or it knows how to do.

You, as the conscious waking personality, bring your attention to it and work with that guard dog. Say, “Thank you for alerting me.” Calming it, calming it down, and then calling upon Essence to say, “Okay, of these warnings and everything I’m getting, chime in with intuition. Chime in with a sense of where I’m at in my life.

And also chime in with perhaps a little larger perspective that helps encourage you. And embolden you to make a choice that is new and different and potentially end the inner conflict that the ego will put you in when it’s running from fear alone.

So, just to recap that, the ego is not your enemy. It is just responding to the world as it sees it, and it may not always have the best method.

You as the person, the personality, the self must bring your conscious awareness to bear and make choices about how you’re going to act. You need to ask Essence, soul, beingness for greater courage, a greater perspective, and even the ability to be in the presence of fear without being absolutely harnessed by fear or captured by fear.

Because, ladies and gentlemen, in a human body fear is inevitable. To pretend, “Oh, I don’t have fear of this, or I don’t have fear of that…” it’s usually a fear response called denial.  You all live, you all survive, because you have a mechanism for fear. The question is,  How do you choose to respond to it?

If you react with fear to fear, then you are not choosing, you are just in reflex, you are just in reaction.

So, welcome to the newcomers. Uh, Twana, uh, Sherry.  Richard, and um…. Brad and Lori, um, you too, Angela, nice to see you. And Paige, I see you’re there.

So, in any case, welcome to all of you tonight.

And the statement  of how it works tonight basically is this. In a few moments, I’m going to bring Michael in more deeply, or the consortium in more deeply. And I’ll begin the output. As you… many of you know, I tend to use slides as part of my presentation. Such that I’ll go through a few of them.

And, and then turn it back over, and once I get to a completion point usually about halfway I turn it over to you folks to have a Q&A period with them.

As always, the questions that you’re welcome to ask are… can be anything personal.  But in preference  I ask that you try first put your questions more to the context of tonight’s presentation.

I want to just start off by having you take a deep breath and allow yourself to just bring all your parts here, Essence, personality, and ego. Mind, emotions and body sensations. And when you do that just notice how much fidelity or cohesion there is with all of them together.

Or is there a great deal of static, or any kind of…. distortion or disconnection of one part to the next. There is no right or wrong in this. There is no preferred way of doing this, I might add. It is rather simply an exercise in noticing how many of these components within you are working together.

Now, with you noticing where things are as an exercise in free agency… agency is another term for your ability to choose amongst available options. If you wish…. you can be with the state that you’re detecting right now.

But also, see if you can request of these parts, if you wish them to be, to be more cohesive, more together more in alignment with each other. So that all parts absorb this material simultaneously.

All right, very good. So you can make… we’ll invite you later when it comes to the question and answer times, to report whatever’s been true for you.

As is the custom, by the way, ladies and gentlemen, if you would mute yourself for the duration of this. That’d be much appreciated. Phones going off in the background, or….   whatever kind of distraction may happen for you then becomes a distraction for everyone. So, thank you for doing that voluntarily, if you would.

All right, very good. I see everyone is here except… looks like the only person we’re missing is Mike Huttinger. So, we’re going to start and let Mike join in when he is ready.

Stephen:   Alright. Alright, so I’m going to share some slides first. And I’m going to give you all a chance to open your eyes and hopefully join me in a little humor. There’s nothing usually that the cynic enjoys more than a little humor. And so here’s some for you. So, as you can see, I found this in the airport:

Even Coca-Cola’s adopted my cult. And I thought it was very interesting, so I took the photograph of the bottle. And I thought, Coke? When I was a younger man coke used to be one of my nicknames. So, I thought, what if I started my own…. Co-branding?

So what do you think, folks? Here’s a couple of my slogans I came up with:

“Things go better with Cokeconi”.   Anybody? Eh? All right, we’ll see how that goes.

“Have a consortium and a Smile!” All right, well, that one’s flat, too. And then this one, of course, is for those of you who are cynics, and this was:

“Sugar in your channel is good for Die-abetes.” All right, so on to reality, then, and on to the fun things.

Michael:   So, needless to say, everyone, we are talking about 2025, which we have defined in previous sessions as being a year of tremendous variability and tremendous volatility. And it is the beginning salvo, the beginning arc of a 25-year period that is truly defining the way that humanity will be going.

Remember from earlier, this is a 25-year arc it’s not like it’s just going to automatically alter course  in a couple of months, or even next year. You are in spite of much of the attitude of cynic that people were feeling in the beginning of the year.

I’m going to move on.  All the pessimism, all the feelings of uncertainty, the sense of, ”My God, everything is going to hell in a handbasket”, etc, etc.

Instead, what we want you to know,  we wanted to back up here a little bit.

Surprising Amount of Variability is Present.

Get engaged. Be Spry. Don’t Wait for things to happen.

See? This is the erratic nature, by the way, of the Artisan energy. And that’s a key term, erratic energy, rather than chaotic energy.  Because chaos implies disaster. And what we want you to realize is not everything this year has been a disaster. It has been a successive set of steps of complete surprises, of complete shocks in many cases startling, personal disasters, or what you see on the worldly level. And yet, many of you have also experienced something of the variability. And that is to say that there has been an interesting number and period of times when your personal reality in all of this set of worldly overleaves, and this grand tumult that is happening that you see on the worldly stage has given you periods of enjoyment. Periods of what we might call, “Ooh, neat!” vibrations. And un-neat is when the little child all of a sudden discovers something new to play with. And in some of this Artisan energy, that too has been available. Now.

We’re going to use this image below. And we’ve been talking about it to several people to describe the artisan energy of 2025.  It’s a new symphony.  A new composition is being written. All right?

Artisan Energy bears Complexity and can originate
a Multiplicity of Compositions. It is not “one thing.”

This is what complexity looks like and multiple variation. And believe it or not. That is where the Artisan thrives. It loves having all this diversity at its fingertips.

Now, as you can imagine, sometimes the discord, the disharmony, and the cacophony of sound can be overwhelming. And you want to just shut your ears off.  But at the same time, like this pipe organ, you notice that there are literally 3 levels of keys.

There are 15 tabs above them. And then, you know, approximately 30 variable,   adjustments that could be made on either side. So when you do this as a factorial. This reaches almost infinite variation.

And yet, there is still only a limited number of things that you’re working with. And why we’re saying this to you is because that’s the way to cast this year. There are only truly  a limited number of material things that you can deal with.

And that will affect your life. And yet, your particular challenges as a species and as personal essences is to learn to become specific with the goal of discrimination.

And the fact that this is an Ordinal energy year, which means being personal and being inward about how you adjust the keys or which keys you play. How you work with the valves for how much volume, and  how much influence you  input into a creation, an invention.

Now, we realize this is a metaphor. But this is a really good visual metaphor for the fact that, yes, there are many things going on. But it is not chaotic, meaning, it is not totally out of your control.

You just have many micro choices. And we hope you can hear that, because many micro-choices is different from the reality that everything is out of control. Chaos means everything is out of control, but it also implies  that you have no input in the process. And what we suggest is what has been happening so far, and what will continue to happen is for you to learn what keys to press. What valves to adjust. And literally, what things not to play with.

And the more that you can become familiar with that, the better your harmonies will be. The more that you will enjoy the process, and the less frightening you will find things happening.

 

 

Now, that’s an overarching statement about the Artisan energy for 2025. What we see pivoting now for the second half of the year, and this is what we’re talking about the direction of the overleaves for the next 3 months is, folks,  as much as everyone, when you look to the world stage  want to feel and chagrin, the Artisan energies are about  opportunism.

Now, you see opportunism played out by those who were in Power Mode in the Negative Pole in the way that you’re seeing it happen on the world stage, particularly within this country. So we’re going to just make that as a broad statement.

Now, what that can look like is erratic movement that is distracting, that is unpredictable, and of course, it can seem like it doesn’t have an underlying purpose to it. And every individual action may not. But overall, the strategy being used is to keep everybody off balance.

Now, when it comes to you as a personal experience we invite you to notice the natural way that Martyrdom as a Chief Feature wants to operate.  Is it, you know, it says, “My God, hold on. I don’t want to make any changes, oh my god, they’re going to hurt me, It’s going to be terrible, The world is going to come down on me, There’ll be hell to pay, etc.”

Now, that’s the Negative Pole of Martyrdom and Victimization. And that’s often the way Martyrdom responds to what it perceives as chaos. And yet, what we want to tell you is the Tao, using masculine energy is loading up the possible positive outcomes for you. For every time you take a risk to do something out of what’s commonly called  your comfort zone the more that you do that, the more you’re going to perceive the feelings of emotional successes. As emotional successes, and we’ll tell… we’ll explore more of that when we continue on speaking about the Emotional Centering.

Now, continuing on this list. “Speak up” this is an important one, because if you want to access the Power Mode in the Positive Pole of Authority, it means you, the author of your own words as the Sage-oriented Mode take command of your personal truth and state it. Do not suppress it, do not hide it.

And do not pretend it away. And at this point, do not engage in a great deal of rationalization. Take the risk of speaking your truth.  And it could be one-on-one conversations. Or joining in on the levels of standing up and lending your voice to these united fronts or causes that you believe in.

Cynic. Now, Cynic energy, as we said, has been really big this year, but it’s more than just Pessimism, and that’s what many of you fear.  You fear being pessimistic. In fact, what that is revealing to you is that many of you are addicted. Addicted to positivity. And when you are addicted to positivity, you end up ensnaring yourself. Because you won’t allow yourself to face what is in your life, or in immediate circumstances around you.

You will constantly be trying to spin it. And we can tell you folks, when you’re doing spin doctoring with yourself, in yourself, guess what? You’re engaging in denial, avoidance or  self-deception. And those are the very strategies that the Power Mode with the Goal of Discrimination and in a Cynic year, you are being shoved upon to get those out of your space, or at least in confront them, and to stop playing those out, because otherwise you will continue to live out of the Negative Pole of Martyrdom.

So notice how we are describing the interaction of these energies together. You are not being damned to these.  But you are being shown the interweaving factors. Now, we can tell you idealists, and you spiritualists, you often gristle at the ideal, that Cynicism and its Positive Pole, which is Debate, Forensics, Contradiction, Challenge standing up and having a contrary opinion, is somehow bad, or negative, or wrong, and so forth.

We had really encourage you to challenge that belief not because of wanting to do the right thing or a good thing, or a loving thing, or a kind thing is in any way, shape, or form bad. But just because mental positivity can become a shield against being real with yourself when you’re stuck in the Negative Poles. In the case of idealism, of Naivete and in the case of Spiritualists in the Negative Pole of Credulity, of beliefs. Meaning that you’re willing to fall back into something that seems like what we call a stable data. And that’s what beliefs are, is they’re stable data. They may be completely wrong, but if you have invested your emotional energies into them you’ll continue to fall back to them a you’re eagerly trying to get yourself to a safer space.

And one of the things about this year that all of you can probably agree on when it comes to your feeling your emotions, nothing feels particularly safe and solid. And we’ll talk about that more in just a moment. You see, this is what’s going on a larger scale.

And we want to acknowledge all of you especially from the standpoint, and we’ve talked to many of you this week, about the transition that many of our channels have been speaking about.

As we evolve the teaching, which is all of this intellectual framework, all the terminology that we’ve brought so far in these first 50 years and to evolve it into, instead of a truth-centered teaching, which is essentially learning the material into a love-centered teaching. Which is applying it in a way that you understand the nuances the intricacies, and so forth.

And one of the things about this evolving into a love-centered teaching is to understand that your emotions, or a powerful aspect of your humanness is not about suppressing some and accepting others, or forcing others to the surface, while somehow denying some. Like many of you, as Old Souls. You really get afraid of anger, excuse me.

And then many of you have a history somewhere in your past of levels of shame including many of you who’ve got to the Old Soul level.

And you know  some of what we’ve talked about is that Old Souls are automatically prone to Self-Deprecation, because you’re wiped… you’re exhausted! You’ve lived all these lives! And you go, “God, thank you, I’ve made it ” and you’re just trying to finish up and cycle off.  Well, you’re not done yet.

But all of those things that you may have been socially imprinted to believe were failures, either in this life or bringing those in from past life, there are buckets of shame in there. And the proactive energy of this year is calling everyone forward to be a part of it.  You may not ever heal your shame, but you’re called to acknowledge it. And to move forward, even in spite of it.

And sometimes, anger, healthy, clean, honest anger propels, your right to be. And stands for the right to protect life. Those two principles are exactly appropriate for anger. And the third one is, the truth. Capital T: Truth, and maybe even, sometimes your own inner understanding of truth is being trounced upon.

Particularly by bullies because in the Negative Pole of Cynic, that’s a bully. And a lot of times, even when the Martyr slides over to its friend in Patience, which is the exalted, action-oriented Chief Feature those two can team up and really become attacking and so forth.

The only way to stand is not to pretend that you go all Zen and all that, because many of you are not spiritual adepts in that way. It’s about garnering the strength of what masculine energy can do when there is Truth. When there is true anger, that produces valor; that produces courage, those more masculine energy-oriented emotions. But ones that are absolutely necessary who learn to be accessed in your cells.

When we refer to these images. We want to point out to you what our purpose was.

Some of you who were here 6 months ago, when we did the opening of 2025, we showed the one picture on the left. And notice, you know, the… part of what “You are Here” at any given time that famous and valued statement of being the present or be here now.

Okay. Acknowledge at any given moment, name your emotional state. That means emotional literacy. We’re not saying your feelings, because many of you confuse opinions with feelings. We’re talking emotions, anger, shame, fear, love, hope, exhilaration, concern. You know, and so forth. Those are emotions. Name those first, because those are the fuels that are pushing everything.

Once you name those and bring those into consciousness, then you can start saying, “Alright, what do I want to do with these?”  But folk… the thing about it is, folks, many of you are uncomfortable with just being with your emotions, or with new conditions and new circumstances.

And as we’ve said, a lot of what the Artisan energy is, is it’s pushing out all sorts of new circumstances that are, in fact, unpredictable. But… and they make you feel uncomfortable because they are not stable.

Data. They are not familiar to you. They violate your beliefs, or they shake your beliefs because your beliefs can’t answer the new circumstances. You have to invent anew.

That discomfort does not mean you are unsafe. So, the unsafety is usually what Martyrdom tells us, “Oh my god, don’t do anything, it’s unsafe!” And what we’re suggesting is you say, “No. I am safe within myself. Because I will stick with myself, I will stand with myself. And even if the outside world delivers some pain, I am strong enough to be with it.”

But… you may also find that by taking a risk and doing something unusual, new, and even if it feels unsafe you have an incredible experience. Of literally, something…. awe-inspiring and illuminating in your life. That’s the payoff that is happening in this year, and some of you have already had that.

Now, you notice this picture of Sandra Bullock here. Um, and maybe… maybe some of you recognize this from a movie she made of a few years back called Gravity, and she’s weightless. Because she is stranded in space in a weightless environment right there.

And we use that because we want to acknowledge that for many of you the feeling of being in the void and not having any kind of orientation to it can feel incredibly disorienting, and even unsafe, and maybe even cause paralysis to some extent.

We’re inviting you to be aware of these statements. To confront when that context is surrounding you and acknowledge yourself, how fearful that could be. How uncertain that might be. But take a deep breath and make a choice anyway, to do something different.

You know, we have been talking about for quite some time now the fact that all of this is happening within the larger context of the end of the Young Soul Era, which you are, by the way, seeing the last gasp of the Young Souls in the institutional version of them. You know, tearing apart, you know, people, trying to make individual gain and trying to fragment everybody into parts. That’s what the Young Soul does, you know, “It’s me and you, and I’m going to win” motto of that orientation.

And that’s not to say, by the way, ladies and gentlemen, it’s just Young Souls doing that. There are plenty of Mature Souls and all souls who have been, remember, imprinted with that, this life, and you have a lot of wiring there that’s automatically to that yourselves.

What you may not really have is where the Mature Soul era is inviting you to go to. And it says, “No matter what I’m doing, I can take care of myself, but I am going to also invest in the collective”, just like this lady is.

 

Here’s a beachcomber who is collecting garbage, and as her sign says, “It may not be my garbage. But it’s my planet.”  And we want you to understand, that is very much a Mature Soul cognitive frame of reference to adopt when you’re looking at things right now.

And what we can tell you is that the Negative Pole of the Power Mode, which is to put up a barrier, cross your arms, go into the Negative Pole of Cynic, which is to say, ”Fuck you.”

And the Negative Pole of Discrimination or Rejection because that’s what it used to be called. Rejection, you go into those parts and you will find, and you see them, they’re called MAGAs in this country. And they’re called extremists in other countries. And they’re called ultra-right-wingers in many countries. That are crossing their arms and saying, “Fuck you.” Those are all the Negative Poles fusing together to produce that ultra-defensive, ultra-hateful ultra-rejecting space.

The way to get yourself out of that is to do some of what you… many of you are already doing.  Just go get yourself involved in some collective activity. Some emotionally gratifying thing that points towards the future. Not just resist what’s going on now. Because if you can do that, you will find it will actually produce energy for you rather than lock you up into resistance against something.

So, folks…. just like this Positive Pole cynic, right? Scrutinize. You know, dig in. And yes, you’ll notice, she’s angry. She is not going to be fooled.

Many of you remember that, uh, song by the rock group The Who with the refrain, “We won’t get fooled again.”   Anyway, so…. And it’s okay. Bring that anger, focus it. Notice that  looking glass up closely because that’s what ordinal energy is, folks. It is doing your bit. Getting into the micro, scrutinizing what’s right in front of you, and picking it apart.

Don’t get lost in what this year is about is don’t get lost in too much of the exalted or the cardinal energy. You are being offered many distractions to pull you out into the world.  Look at your own life, look at your community. And look at the situations around you that you can work in and manage those first.

 

And as the next few years unfold, you’ll find that that habit becomes much more manageable. You will also be able to manage your vibration internally much more effectively when you chunk it down, which is, by the way, one of the methods that the Positive Pole of Discrimination, which is Discernment, and the Positive Pole of  the Emotional Center working together are. Discernment and Perceptivity.

When it’s Ordinal, it means discern your emotional perceptivity about the small things that you actually have some agency over. Because, again, if you get your energy diffused outward into too big of concerns you will find yourself feeling overwhelmed and disempowered. And one of the ways here is what the sign talks about.

You know, we want to acknowledge that many of you who have Server energy or Server imprinting or are more feminine energy or Server casting.   Or feel, you know, or have certain over leaves which predispose yourselves to wanting to give. Or some of you who are just plain out codependent and give yourselves away.

All of you need to be familiar with the fact that reasonable limits are what Discrimination, Discernment are calling for you to do, to build up. Not boundaries to shun, not walls, like building a picket fence around yourself and isolating yourself. But rather, to become much more clear about what energies you have available to you, and when you can give them out and when you can’t give them out. Because if you do that, a lot of the takers out there, and what you see running the world right now, are the takers are going wild.

 

 

They have gone wild. All the… the entire billionaire class, we realize, were making quite a broad statement, but we will tell you right now, the billionaire class. It’s a continual acquisition of power that is entirely cynical. An entirely prejudicial against you guys, and the best way to stand up against them is to set your boundaries. And to assert those boundaries with your own positive use of power in the Positive Pole. Because otherwise, otherwise…

This is what lost the last election for, you know, um…. the Democrats, in many ways. You see, many of you who are Mature and Older souls didn’t participate because many of you felt overwhelmed.  And you took Martyrdom in the sense of “What’s the use, it’s no good, it’s hopeless.”  And when you do that, it can lead to apathy.

Now, we’ll tell you why we chose these two images. Metaphorically, you get the point.

 

 

Some of you may recognize that’s the artist Edvard Munch. And then, by the way, that is not the Scream Of Nature. No. No. This one is called Despair. This is despair. And notice despair looks down, looks away from people and shrugs. It kind of gives up.

Now, some of you know the modern, kind of more New Age fable about the frog and the cook pot. And that is you set a fog in cool water  and slowly you turn up the heat of the environment. And they adjust, and they adjust, and they don’t  jump out until suddenly it’s so hot, they’re cooked.

Now, in many ways, ladies and gentlemen, we have to tell you that is what’s happened. to many of you as well.  Over the last, say, 30 years slowly but surely, the heat of selfishness under the guise of manifesting your own potential and your own prosperity, and your own well-being has been turned up so that it justifies those takers literally taking more and more.

So you’ve got accustomed to sitting in that, and being a part of that, and when it came to the point where all of a sudden, what’s happening now is the water is boiling. Many of you feel like you are just disempowered. And many people out there  feel completely disempowered.

Now, you guys…. at least now, are jumping. You wouldn’t be here in this evening tonight with this group of people, if you didn’t, if you weren’t, or if you haven’t already, at least jumped out of the water, but you don’t know where to go next.

Well, one of the things that you can do on an Ordinal one-to-one connection basis is wherever you can, try and lower the temperature for people by naming how rough it might be for them. Even those of you who are angry at a certain group of people, those who were apathetic, or those who were fanatically angry in their Martyrdom, sliding over to Impatience.

Whatever you get there, acknowledge the emotions running. “Are you having a hard day? How are you doing…” because if you can help raise their vibration, these are little sprinkling ways you can say the emotional truth in the space. Maybe, just maybe make an actual connection, but we can tell you, you will deflate the places that they are locked into their juice, and the more you can help, one by one, the individual juice of many the more you will deflate the collective juice, so that people will begin to see more and more, and may even fall under into the empowered category and jump out of the hot water.

So, we want to, once again, come back to humor you know, the Cynic sub-personality that exists in everybody. It’s the one that loves, you know, gallows humor, right? Or, you know, filth. Or really just bone-dry kind of, you know, nastiness.

 

 

And, um, you know, you can see…. by these protest signs, especially the woman on the left we got to give her credit, right? You know, you Americans have a really emotionally charged reaction to the word cunt. Whereas the Brits use it with glee and gusto. And they mean it in the same way that many an American will talk about maybe an “asshole.”  But they mean somebody who’s a coward. They mean somebody who is really a jerk and foul, and she… this lady has taken it one step further.  Because when you can smile in the face of an insult you have given yourself power over being offended. And one of the things about the MAGA people is they are already prone to be offended.

And to the degree to which you can learn to disempower taking offense and be in the presence of it, and smile through it and even get, “Oh, so you really want me to know, and you really want to put me down, don’t you?  And disarm the fact that some of their weapons don’t work then, you can move on and disable. Even if you can’t get them positively, you disable that negativity inside of yourself.

Now, the second one we want to just acknowledge,  it is a little bit of a statement that we want to talk about the difference between moving forward and looking backward. Because in the Negative Pole of the Emotional Center is what’s known as Sentimentality, nostalgia,  past memory and oftentimes inventing, especially in an Artisan year, inventing fantasies about the good old days.

Now, why we want to call attention to this one is because granted, Hitler, as one of the many 20th centuries totalitarian leaders ended his life in a bunker as he lost a horrific war that cost over 65 million lives. He took himself out, alright? And that sounds all very well and good from the cynic side sense of humor.

But what we want to point out about it is…. And this is the reason we say to you that the conditions in Germany and the conditions of that fascist network were much different than the ones you have now. Hitler actually had principles. Were they distorted? Were they built on a lot of resentment? Yes. Hitler was, in fact. A principled  person. And he had an agenda.

This person that is leading this world right now is completely out for himself. Completely. Has no substantive principles. And so, instead, or I shouldn’t say only self-enrichment. But unlike Hitler, who had to garner many people for power. Uh, or give them power Hitler was a working-class man. Trump is of a wealth class. And Trump has surrounded himself with a wealth class that’s never been known before.

So, instead of some…. You know, pie-in-the-sky notion, “Oh, it’s inevitable that this kind of thing is going to fail.” We want to tell you, ladies and gentlemen. Don’t slide into false optimism. That is why effort and… and literally courage, and hard work, and realizing there is a new vista here both for the good guys, you, and quote, yes, the bad guys, them.

That they’re building with, and both, and both are building. Just in diametrically opposed direction. And this is what they’re building toward. And we thought this is… if you look at….the license plate on this car, ladies and gentlemen.

We hope you see the irony, or at least a little bit of the cynical way that we’re suggesting might be look… you might look at this.

You see, here is this, you know, $90,000 vehicle of pure materialism, and look at what the person put on his vanity plates.  Ompod is short for Omanipidemi.  Omanipidemi or “Home”. Which is a Hindu statement calling for centeredness into peace.

 

So, his own pod is this luxury automobile. And what we want to point out to you is, folks, be very careful to think about manifesting your abundance and or spiritual-centeredness or showing how much you’ve earned karmically. It’s literally like heaping on the sugar when you’re claiming to be on a diet.

Consumption will numb you. All right? And it does not advance you. But it certainly gives you a nice. Comfortable place to hide. So be careful for those of you who are wanting to run in… run out and think about getting more stuff.

When discrimination this year is suggesting you learn to do with less stuff. But learn to do what’s the most emotionally satisfying. And the most emotionally need-fulfilling stuff that you have and get rid of the rest.

Because otherwise, your next 25 years is liable to look what? Being involved in addictive consumerism that’ll bury you. And that is a real concern for much of humanity.

And in that, we want to talk about need for one last, uh, one of a couple last slides here.

And that is, folks, one of the wars that is going on in a very tangible way is the reality that you have. You know, the world of the haves and the have-nots. And the way that the Mature Soul era is going to have its kind of internal war is whether societies come to terms with is you cannot have that kind of vast disparateness and have truly functional, advanced, progressive societies.

Oh, you can have societies of uniformity and conformity and virtual enslavement. And that’s a kind of, quote community of last resort. But if you’re talking about communities that advance and worlds where people experience themselves as having enough and then expanding into the Mature Soul consciousness.

Then, one of the things that will happen more and more, and it’s happening in several countries, even the Western countries. What are called First World countries now, and that is a universal Basic Income.

Now, believe it or not, folks, some of you who look below the surface of capitalism realize whether you call it welfare, or Social Security, or aid to families with dependent children, or Medicaid, or disability or pensions. That is…. A universal Basic Income. Excuse me. That is a basic income supplement. Universal would mean just that, that everybody in the population gets it.

And we bring this up is to help put it in mind to you that if you’re going to have this  world succeed, it has to be moving in the direction which is the Positive Pole of the Mature soul energy, which is Egalitarianism. Because the Negative Pole, one of the manifestations of the Negative Pole is essentially,  equal oppression. Everyone is oppressed.

So, with that, we’re going to end and…. we’re going to give you guys all a chance to  take a breath, or think for a moment, and… or consider questions you might have.

What we would suggest, by the way, is you notice down there the react button. At the bottom, look at your reactions. There’s a thumbs up and a raise hand sign, and any number of reactionary symbols that you could use to gesture to us.

We’d appreciate that if you want to ask a question, use the raised hand sign because on Zoom, it alerts me to look at you much easier than physically raising your hand in your screen. I can’t always see you, because I have 20 people in front of me. So please use that raise your hand button, like I’m doing right there.

So, does anyone care to start tonight? Oh, we love it how we either enthrall you or overwhelm you that there is this initial silence.

Bates: Okay.   I have a statement. Okay?

Michael:  I’m sorry, Joe, I don’t understand the nature of your question. We’re not sure if that was a question or a commentary.

Jeanne:  clarifying Joe’s status: Karen posted that Mike North said that Stephen Miller is a reincarnation of Goebbels. And then several people chimed on about that. That’s what Joe was responding to.

Michael:  I see, okay. Yeah, it’s kind of… sometimes it’s a little difficult to read the chat

Um, yeah, he’s… yeah,  He is a fanatical Sage. And now he’s getting a chance to fulfill what Goebbels didn’t do, and that’s his equivalent as Project 2025.

Michael: All right, Brad? Brad, you’re up. Yeah, unmute, please. Or Lori. Hi, Lori and Brad. Whichever one of you want to speak.

Lori: I appreciate the insights on current feelings. We’ve definitely gone through a lot of existential dread, and  I have, like, certain things I’d like to make into little videos. And yeah, I’m afraid of the…. backlash I might get.

Michael:  The thought police?

Lori: No, just more like MAGAs and people threatening to kill me or something, and honestly, because….

I want to make this video on acupressure points people could press in order to, and I’m talking mostly about women of childbearing age who want to… that can help regulate their periods. So that they wouldn’t get pregnant, basically, and it can cause miscarriages.

So, as an acupuncturist, I wouldn’t do these points on people because they’re called forbidden points in acupuncture. Uh, but I could teach people how to do the acupressure on themselves in a video  and put it out there as a direct. You know, fuck you to MAGAs in red states that are taking away women’s rights to have any control over their bodies, and… because that is the way I feel.

I will be honest. But I am afraid…. Yeah.

Michael: No, we’re glad… we’re delighted. You’re talking about the emotion of anger. And you’re talking about righteous indignation, about a principle. And that’s where we said anger, Lori, is valid.

Now, in terms of how to deal with your fear of reprisal. That’s up to you, how to deal with your fear of reprisal. Otherwise, what we said tonight is, you know, in the Power Mode stance, stand up. And the Cynic in the Positive poll says, “Put up or shut up.”

Dealing with the fear, and taking the risk is up to you, dear. You are at choice. It is what you believe you can do.

And as far as a lot of the MAGAs out there. You know, one of the things that you can do for yourself is to realize that much of what you publish you know, if they will seek out Lori Gilbert and come over to your house or make phone calls and stuff.

But it’s much less likely to happen than the predominant undertone of the state of fear that is out there in actual probabilities. But notice, when you’re dealing with the Emotional Center honor the fear. And then decide if you’re going to do it anyway.

Lori:  And I do feel this overwhelming and exhaustion as well.

Michael: Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, we can tell you, if you do it, if you do it, you will find yourself experiencing a great deal of emotional charge. Some very anxious, some very, you know, some actually exhilarating and exciting.   It’s about taking that risk. Or not. Again, we’re not encouraging you to do this.

We are telling you that that is the…. threshold precipice  but we want to acknowledge   again, righteous indignation. Oh, did we lose you?

Lori:  No, I’m still here. Yeah, we have another screen up that doesn’t have a microphone or…. video, it’s just… it’s a much bigger screen.

Michael: Okay, got it.  I see. Oh, okay, you’re both on there. Well, that’s fine.

Lori:  So you don’t see the likelihood of it being imperiling the lives of me or my family here?

Michael: No. We don’t see the likelihood of that. And we don’t want to pretend that can’t happen. That kind of absolute statement, it is just that though the probability is very low, remember what the state of fear on a on a group level tries to do. It tries to introduce that silence, that martyrdom, the statement that we made earlier, “Oh, shut the hell up, don’t say anything. Somebody might pay attention.”

And yet the Positive Pole say. You know, “Fuck you, I’m standing up, I’m not going to just do this.  I’m not going to just roll over.”

Lori:  Yeah I just don’t want the actual martyrdom to happen, you know? I don’t want to be a martyr.

Michael:  Yeah, right. And yet, you will suffer… you will suffer internally from the internal vacillation. Until you make a choice.

Lori:  Yeah, that’s been the hard part, is deciding. And then executing it as well. I’ve just had a lot of a hard times with all of that in the last few years. I am so scatterbrained, and…. I feel that I’m just overwhelmed all the time.

Michael: Well, we want to acknowledge, also the Old Soul Comfy and cozy. Your life with Brad and your family is working really great! It’s working really great on a personal level.  What you see in the surrounding environment that your principles in Essence and personality are being stirred, while Ego to personality, is saying, “I don’t know, don’t rock the boat.”

Lori:   Yeah, I have gotten my creature comforts satisfied. I’ll tell you that, and I… and I like it!

Michael: Yeah. And there is nothing wrong about having your creature comforts and liking it. Nothing morally wrong about it. But notice how they, in perceiving this level of fear of losing your comforts how easily it also short-circuits your own higher centers wanting to operate in a principled way.

And one of the things that we have said. And what we try to make the point of is, folks. Complacency and inactivity will guarantee the outcome everyone is fearing. That’s why we made a point of that sign, saying, “Yes, you could pretend, oh yeah, history is going to repeat itself, and Trump’s going to end up in his gold bathroom blowing his brains out like Hitler did in his bunker.” And it’s not going to happen! Mr. Trump is having a great time. Being the world destroyer.

Lori: Oh, yeah, I also was thinking…. There’s so many conspiracy theories.   I thought the one that was great about Hitler that he went to Antarctica, you know, and was living in some kind of alien base or something there. And there’s just all kinds of that stuff that people seem to believe now about everything. It’s nuts!

 

Michael: Yeah, Yeah. When people don’t have stable data, as we said earlier, Lori, they will go to something called wishful thinking. And wishful thinking is a Negative Pole experience of Idealism. Wishful thinking produces what’s known as conspiracies. It makes it right and ripe for credulity.

Lori: Okay, I’ll just put it out there. I’m looking for somebody to help me with making a video, so if any of you have some expertise and can and want to help me on this project, I’ll, uh, I’ll take any help I can get. And thank you very much, Steve and Michael.

Michael: You’re very welcome, Lori.  And we’re glad you’ve accumulated your creature comforts, and we’re glad that your world is safe. And we’re glad that you’re having a lot of, personally, really fun things going on for you guys, even in the milieu of all this.

But it also empowers you to take some of that energy and put it out into your community. You could do it as dramatically in that way if you want, or, you know…. Just go out and do…. different forms of community involvement.

Lori:  Thanks.

Michael: So, you bet.  Russ, and then Nan. I believe that was the order that came up. Russel Liser and then Nan.

Russ, if you’re ready, you can unmute yourself.

Russ: I’ll go one step further, pass Michael, Lori.

I’m behind you a thousand percent. I have at least 5 women in my divorce support group.  Plus my own friends and long-term buddies. And they’re all suffering in some way. And acupuncture to help a woman feel better, or to get through a period, or…. especially menopause, because a lot of my group friends are 55 and older.  With the mess that’s going on in the world, they’re… they’re very, very troubled.

You would be a blessing. The other part is, Michael, thank you for addressing the anger.  I am filled with it. You saw the B2s that just blew up small parts of Iran. I helped build that airplane, and I’m extremely proud of it.

And the way the news…. And Hegseth and the rest of those idiots in Washington are handling the whole pronouncement and  aspect of that flight and mission as  bomb mode. It’s  a horrible denigration of the years that we spent to build that beautiful thing.

Unfortunately, it’s a chassis of destruction.  But when that thing goes up in the air it cannot be found or detected. It’s that stealthy. And the stealth technology is still the most precious and guarded technology and the entire world.

But I needed to hear that tonight:  Watch your anger, put it towards energy. Don’t let it usurp you, uh, because it’s just filling up my entire body. I appreciate the words and the energy.

Michael: Good. We’ll add one more thing to it, folks. Anger, the way it was cast from the original channels…. Remember, it came through an original channel who was studying Hinduism, and then it was put through Chelsea Quinn Yarborough. Who was so sheep-dipped in, you know, the New Age, meaning that anger was not cool, that they forgot that anger is a vital life force and part of mammalian life. And it is not always a, “secondary reaction to fear”, it can also be a primary reaction when a boundary has been crossed or a principle has been violated. That is the point: action-reaction, incursion-diversion-expulsion.

In standing up for a principle and your boundaries the key is, is not to devolve into wild, uncontrolled rage. It is about clearly harnessing that energy and making it a decisive force coupled with the masculine energy that is 61% that is happening this year. And making decisive uses of it.

In a sense, you might even say, metaphorically speaking, if you’re going to do a bomb run, do a bomb run after those attitudes and those circumstances that you want to see defeated with clarity and determination and don’t let up.

Part of compassion, by the way, ladies and gentlemen, is standing up too lies. Even to having compassion for the liar, even though it may represent an intellectual smackdown. Because otherwise, pandering just allows the entire cycle to go forward. So, thank you, Russ.

Russ: Exactly, thank you

Michael: Nan, you’re next. You’re… you’re on mute now.

Nan: Just wanted, uh…. To suggest to Lori. I understand her concern. About being chased. You’re not going to be like the senator in  Minnesota that got shot. But, you could create a slightly altered persona.

Michael: Nan, did you have a question, or did you want to connect with Lori, perhaps offline?

Nan: Okay, well, the fact is, I…. The chat only allows you to talk to everyone. It doesn’t allow you to select a person to….

Michael: Oh, is that right? This one doesn’t have a…. This one doesn’t allow for individuals? Oh my goodness. So, ugh. Huh. Oh, thank you, Zoom, once again, for sabotaging our ability to connect with each other in the middle of these meetings.

Nan: Yeah, I looked for it. I looked for it.

Michael: Okay. Thank you for letting me know, Nan. And by the way, I’m not trying to shut you down,   I appreciate you wanting to connect. That is much desired for you all to have mutual connections with each other here.

We just wanted to give… make sure we gave opportunity to as many people as possible to  have their questions answered by us. So, by all means, folks.

Put phone numbers, emails, and or what have you. In the chat to each other and say, let’s get together offline. So I encourage you to  put out that information to one another.

All right. So, uh, was there anything else, Nan, or can I move on to Karen?

Jeanne: And maybe you and Lori could exchange emails on the group chat, and then you could take it away

Nan: Okay, okay. No, I’m willing to do that.  My original idea was to just chat to Loir but I can’t do it.   Nothing else, please move on

All right, thank you.   Kerrin,  Okay.

Kerrin: Hi. It’s funny, I’ve never been… I’ve never succumbed to toxic positivity. This new anger’s, like, my default emotion. And just a side note, I think all of this really affects our adrenals and our cortisol levels, and the more high your cortisol is the more pissed off you are.

Michael: Yes. Yeah, there’s truth in that.

Kerrin:  So, I’ve been working on trying to lower my cortisol. Again, maybe it’ll take my rage down a notch.

But, you know. Life just seems to keep triggering it. But, uh, on a pause… on a Positive note, so, you know, we’ve seen Bernie, Bernie Sanders and AOC touring the country and bringing out huge crowds, even in very red areas. And we just had a progressive win the Democratic nomination in New York City, Zohran Mamdani which kind of shocked a lot of people, to be progressive in New York City.

Does the consortium see, like, maybe this is a  positive force that could move forward to really… like, are people waking up?  Like, really waking up  and listening now?  shifting, maybe not MAGA, but people, you know, moderate conservatives.

Michael: Oh, no, there’s a… there’s a… there’s a lot of granularity hat is happening, but it’s not contained yet into any larger mass forces. One of the things about MAGA as an energy and the ultra-right wing is it’s, like, a solid sludge. It’s a cement. It is solidified, and it is together.

Whereas much of these new, disaffected, in combination of those of you who have felt more expansive because the Democratic Party as a vehicle, at least in this country felt like it disintegrated some, or a great deal, um, after this last election. 4

It doesn’t mean that all of you stopped being, or stop believing, or stop wanting for something. But there’s a new cohesion going on, and that’s part of the Artisan energy of us and artists in Discrimination, who are rearranging all the parts. And they’re being scrambled, and so you have moments like this.

Look at the effectiveness of not only Bernie and AOC but a lot of the Democratic lawmakers who are showing up in these red states. And doing, um, the…. Town hall meetings when their own republican representatives will not. And that is a galvanization, an emotional galvanization that acts as an incendiary force to blow things apart so many of them can come together in new forms. I mean, the Democratic Party needs to reform itself and reorient itself to a newer generation.  And that is energy that needs to happen. You can say this is bad, or this is good, whatever, but the whole process is happening.

So, with his winning one of the things that it represents is, uh, you know, he looks to us to be a Warrior. And he is a really solid individual.  He’s like a King Cast, you know, Sage Essence twin, so he’s articulate and he represented something that was really interesting.

New, but not radical, clear and not conformist; centered in himself. And saying the only path forward is essentially together. And people… and that kind of energy is exactly what people are now saying, because they can see the Republican… even many of the MAGAs can see that the fact that the wealth group in the world, the ultras…. the part that represents the ultimate manifestation of the late Negative Pole of the Young soul era that is running this country. And much of the wealth in the world. Is failing them, finally.

They wanted to believe the outlandish notion that just because this guy had the title businessman, meant he was going to fight for the little guy. Since when? You know, but I mean, that’s how desperate a lot… and how distorted a lot of these folks were.

Now, they’re coming to see that that won’t work. The thing that we have greatest concern about is there is still nothing that we can see that’s guaranteeing that you will face another presidential election. This fellow is trying to destroy enough of the institutions, and now the extreme court is helping him do that even more so.

In a lot of their passive rulings. that will set up things down the road that he will try and dismiss the next set of elections and then, everything that you guys are trying to do now by being nice and not getting involved will come back to…. You know, confront you as you may not have any choice.

So, it does represent some really good movements forward, and that’s the energy that we were talking about, that this… much of this Artisan year also lends itself to you folks to implement.

So…. And as far as you having anger as your default, you go, girl. A King with anger. All you need to do is find yourself an outlet instead of having it attack yourself. But we do want to comment something that you talked about with cortisol.

We really do, uh, want to say one of the things that is really important, and it’s not been a topic we’ve talked about a lot so far in any of our presentations is that many of you gotta come to terms with your bodies.  And we don’t mean the way your bodies look. We don’t care about your appearances anymore. We do care about what is the state of your overall health and well-being. All right? And, you know, the American diet is essentially a toxic one. Particularly because it is so processed. Even the American diet that’s supposedly the health food companies-oriented version of it is still nonsense.

Going back to simple things. And we realized that many of our vegetarian friends kind of just gasp  in a basement when we say this. The method that animals are killed for meat protein. Is abominable, there’s no question. But we will tell you that animal proteins still represent and or, you know, whether that’s fish, or meats, or what have you, still represent the best form of the foundation of a healthy diet.

And the more of you that can still afford to eat like that, because it’s rapidly sneaking up behind you, ladies and gentlemen, that many whole foods, basic foods, unless they’re grown by you are processed in a number of ways, and they’ve got hidden additives. Even a lot of the supplements and stuff you buy, and dietary goods you buy have a lot of stuff that are imbalanced, and they may be helpful to you, they may be a little bit better than some of the, you know, commercial processed foods. But make no mistake, there’s still products being sold and they have to have a shelf life, and that sort of thing.

So, eating well will lower cortisol. Yes, managing stress, but understand it’s stress against the self, like what Lori is facing that increases cortisol much more than taking your sense of indignation and applying it out in the world. That will actually raise your vibration.

And your body will respond by having lower… because cortisol, you might even say, is the cognitive dissonance hormone.

Kerrin:  Yes, thank you.

Michael: And the less you have cognitive dissonance, the less you are going to have cortisol buildup in your body in the way that it produces personal health effects. And also, cortisol is a forum of a drug. You know, it facilitates ego being permissible. To issuing, hate, and, um, and hostility. And that might be a temporary fix. But it doesn’t solve anything. It’s embracing true anger and utilizing it to stand behind principles that will uplift your vibration.

So, addressing the chemistry of cortisol inside of yourself will help support that. It will physically help stabilize your vibration. But emotionally and behaviorally, those are the other two pieces.

Thank you for that question. Does that at least answer some of what you asked?

All right, Kerrin, you’re welcome, thank you. I believe, uh, Catherine is up next, and then Angela.

Kathryn: I’m actually asking this question on behalf of Paige, who is not able to unmute her phone. I wanted to know is, is there any way to stop the sale of our national parks?

Are people destined to destroy habitats to privatize public lands? Uh, is Greta Thunberg and others stepping up to channel the Infinite energy?

Michael: Okay, well, um…. They’re not going to sell off the national parks but they are going to sell public lands. And we want to make that distinction. Why? Because the national parks are already, essentially quasi-privatized already by virtue of the fact that almost all of them are managed by, I forget what they call them, hospitality companies, essentially, like, those, the things that run hotels that do concessions and run a lot of their services.

The Rangers and the law enforcement in there will remain  because they, in spite of the fact that DOGE and everything else which is… Doge already has, you know, had its effect, but it’s also falling apart.

And that’s one thing in the Artisan year. It generates many possible novelties, and the ones that don’t catch on fall apart.

Now, is there going to be national park sale, uh, national land… public land sales? And the answer is yes. But what’s really going to happen is instead of the lands themselves, they’re going to… they’re going to do another one of these about so-called about-face turns.

And they’re going to sell off all the timber rights, and all the mineral rights. But they’re not going to sell the land. They’ll still call those public lands, even though all those people who want to go camping and want to go hunting and want to go fishing are going to be going to desolate forests.

And we’re sorry to sound pessimistic. But understand, ladies and gentlemen, that’s one of the reasons TAO put pessimism, or excuse me, that’s why they put the Attitude of Cynicism right in front of you.  Is not to be scared off by, quote, you know, hard consequences. It’s to confront them. And to realize that these have… these things have been building.

And then, of course, with Trump apathy is what put him in the White House, all those people who didn’t vote put him in the White House, as well as the hatred and animosity. Instead of conspiracy, call the… call it the conclusion. With many state electoral boards and many state officials who managed to eliminate people off the voter rolls and so forth. So it narrowed those who did get to vote.

Was it legal for the… for the vast part of it? Yeah!  Legal, not ethical, not constitutional, but legal in that, they created statutes and enforcements of these things that weren’t challenged.

So, that process is still in front of you, ladies and gentlemen. That’s why, you know, garnering… garnering hope as an act of defiance not as a measure of probability. Where you need to stand with it  is saying, “Yes, things look like they’re going to hell in a handbasket, and I’m still going out to fight it.

And I’m going out to build something new to compensate for what they’re trying to take away.”  Or at least contribute to that. Because obviously, no one individual here is going to build their own Post office. And we’re not talking about a building kiosk. We’re not… we’re talking about the entire institution.

But you can fight like hell to prevent privatization of the Post Office, for instance. And we believe that will be, even though that’s in Project 2025, to essentially privatize the entire government.  We believe a lot of that’s going to fall flat on its face. And where that’s going to happen is a lot in the midterms because there will still be midterm elections.

And getting the apathetic people angry will be a useful thing to getting, you know, some of the junk people out of that, and, um, actually getting new people to actually start stopping these actions. Because we can tell you, if Trump pulls anything militaristic on the Congress, Civil War will happen.

And you’ll be surprised, a lot of MAGA people are really brave because they have guns but confronted by people who have righteous indignation and principles it’s feeble power, and so will many of the people in the military feel this way.

You all saw Trump’s military parade. Joe, as a military man, knows that that was an act of utter passive-aggressive defiance. It was the most sloppy military parade of any country in the last half century. And of course, the idiot didn’t even get it.

Why? Because the idiot has never been, and are you hearing us say “the idiot?” We are, because Donald Trump is a character actor who is a straw man that has and managed to acquire to himself on one idea.

Idiocy means “just one thing”. That’s what the true root word of idio- is “just one thing.” So, idiocy, in its truest Latin root means centered around one thing. And it means…”Me first”. And he, through the epitome of that operating principle, has drawn everybody to him who believes that as well and even with all their money.

The thing about it is they haven’t got the numbers. They’ve got money, and they can hire all the vigilantes and all the mercenaries they want.  But they can’t sustain them with money alone. And when the numbers rise, these things can and will fall. The question is how many will rise and will stand.

That’s why we said to you, Lori, when we were using you as a case in point. We’re not suggesting you have to do anything, dear. We’re not suggesting you put yourself out there as a sacrificial slaughter. Lamb to be slaughtered. We are suggesting, though, that you and everyone who decides to make us dance even in your own small way that you contribute to this momentum toward crushing this artifice of fear.

So… and then the last part of that is, yes, Greta… Greta Thunberg is, and a number of people are holding the more Infinite Soul energy in literally proclaiming, we have a future, but the Infinite Soul at the Young to Mature Soul era, it’s not just love your neighbor as yourself. That was the phrase from the Baby to Young Soul Era.

The new phrase would be,  “We stand together as one and work for life.” That is the new rallying point. That is the Infinite Soul energy. Because notice when you hear that phrase, “We stand together as one, and we work for life. that it’s completely  to their stance on that side.

But also, it is completely expansionary and principled in doing anything and everything toward the advancement of not just humanity, ladies and gentlemen, because the Earth doesn’t need humans. It doesn’t, humans need humans. Not even the Tao needs humans. It has given you the preeminent agency of free will of any species on this planet, and it’s up to you to decide what you’re going to do with it.

So for those of you who embrace that Infinite Soul message and that Infinite Soul energy in that way and contribute in that format you will be acting on the Mature Soul energies in the love orientation that we were talking about earlier. And will you have some of these setbacks

Yes. On private lands, yes. And then, in 25 years, if that trajectory keeps going and you continue to build you will still be able to recapture, and to a degree, rehabilitate Nature.

It’s human beings that face the greatest hurdle of rehabilitation. And the saddest thing that we have to say is that it was in the 1960s and 70s that the window opened on the world to not only to continue the evolution from one soul age to the next but do it in the more Mature Soul way and that was through peace and evolution.

Unfortunately, that window is passed. It will be through confrontation and through violence as the way that we’ll have to continue this evolution. It is now locked in stone. You have… you’ve crossed off too many crossroads or variables out of the equation.

Why do we say that? Because in a way, it’s to alert you, to bring into awareness that many of the principles that maybe you as Old Souls would have in a… in an absolute ideal world, the reality is, you’re living in a relativistic world that neutrality will do nothing but support the oppressors because they have no scruples. They have no limits. They have only destruction.

And it is you who have scruples and who have limits, that sometimes must stand even harshly, terminally and turn their own means upon them to advance the future from here.

So, I believe Angela was next, so thank you for asking that question for Paige, Kathryn. And then Angela’s next, and then Jillian. Go ahead, Angela. Unmute yourself and then ask your question.

Angela:  All right, okay. Talking about food.  I don’t know if anybody else has noticed this.  I’m in a situation where I just gave up driving. Someone stole my car so I do a lot of grocery shopping online and having it delivered to me because that’s the option I have.

But I don’t know if anybody else has noticed, including the organic stuff  how fruits and vegetables just don’t taste the same anymore, including the organics. They’re terrible.   It’s hard to find anything that is ripe especially with fruits. Ripe, you know, sweet, you know, the way it should taste, tasting the way it should taste.

They’re terrible. The same thing with many vegetables as well. They don’t taste like they used to. And like I said, including the organic stuff, and I know that there was a push a while… a few years back with Big Agra wanting to lower the standards of what can be called organic. And I’m sure they got at least some of it through.

Michael: Oh, they succeeded. They succeeded, yes. They have a USDA version of organics that’s quite watered down, yeah.

Angela: Yeah. Just terrible. I got a supposedly organic cucumber, and this was from Safeway.  And it was bitter, but not only was it bitter, it had this weird aftertaste to it  that did not taste like cucumber at all. And… and I ended up just cutting it up and throwing it down the disposal. I refuse to eat it, because I just felt so concerned about, what the hell is in this that is making it taste so weird?   And I’m finding many things are like that, and many of the fruits that I buy, even from Whole Foods. Are just sour and not ripe, and…. I mean, just plain terrible, and I find I’m just eating fewer and fewer vegetables and fruits, because…. I just don’t like the taste of them,

Unfortunately, I’m one of these people who grew up in kind of, like, small-town America, my parents had their own garden, so I know what things are supposed to taste like. because they grew their own vegetables, and so I know what an apple is supposed to taste like, and corn is supposed to taste like, and green beans are supposed to taste like, and nothing these days is tasting like that.

And it used to be… and I started eating organic for a variety of reasons, but one of which is that it tasted much closer to Garden Grown, and now they don’t anymore. It’s  really awful. And that’s the only comment I, you know, wanted to make about food.  I think our food is just deteriorating and getting worse and worse.

And unfortunately, I’m not wealthy, so I can’t go to the fancy-schmancy, you know, grocery stores that would have, um, you know, maybe have a better quality of produce. Um, so, anyway, that was just my comment.

Michael: Well, we do have a… we do have a few comments for you. We will simply give you one suggestion, that is to find a local shopper who can do your shopping at the farmer’s markets, if they’re still over at X Street, um, under the freeways. Do your buying there. You may pay a little bit more, but you will get food that tastes good, and that you don’t question. That’s number one. That’s just as a practical thing.

Number two, we want to acknowledge your comment, because there is something that we have warned about through many of our channels over the last 20 years and that is the depletion of soils. The natural depletion… it’s the depletion of soils of their natural components. Because of the agribusiness and the hyper-use ways, that growing has happened. It has depleted many soils, even when they are, quote, organically redone.

There’s very little time left anymore for that… for fields to go fallow for natural recovery. In commercial enterprises, agribusiness, of course, it’s chemicalized. Chemical fertilizers, pesticides, sprays, everything  And even with  the over-stamping of the  FDA or the USDA.

This is happening, you know, in the United States more than anywhere. Many other countries don’t have quite this problem. They face soil depletions as well. Mind you. They do. But they have not brutalized their food industries, like American business has. So, some of the things that you’re experiencing are literally foods that don’t have all of these components. Not to mention many of which are now more and more either hybridized or genetically modified that come to your table and are not being required to, you know, be labeled.

And in those things, then. You’re getting these chimeras that don’t have the same tastes, and as a commercial practice, they are picked less and less ripe, expecting to ripen, you know, that they say, oh, they’ll ripen on their own, et cetera, et cetera. And that only works to, of course, to a certain degree.

So all of your complaints, we’re adding in underlying substances, systemic conditions. And then there’s one thing else that’s really unfortunate, that’s a caveat to this that has not been mentioned, is and that in the United States, besides the depletion of  your agricultural food industry, you’re seeing the real estate industry, do some insane things in the name of just short-term profiteering. And that’s building on vast swaths of farmland, cropland orchard land, etc. So, it takes the sheer variety and robustness of that diversity out of production to houses. And then, literally it limits the amount of stock that then is available. So you get less quality stuff in general, because there’s less diversity.

And that is… those are true facts researchable facts, credible facts, that those can be followed up and actually looked at. So we just want to acknowledge you for what you’re saying. But that is our tangible suggestion. Literally look for somebody, put an ad in Craigslist.  Find a buyer to do your shopping at small markets instead of commercial stores.

Thank you, Angela.   Jillian, you had your hand up. You’re next.

Jillian: How like life!!  So, one small thing for Angela, I was speaking with a friend of mine who lives in France now, but her whole family lives in Iowa, and they were all supporting Trump, and she was asking… I asked her how they were responding to all the stuff that’s going down, because one of the things in Project 2025 is to buy out all the family farms.

Michael:  Oh, there we go. How like life, yes?

Jillian:  And they don’t believe that, but they said, it doesn’t matter. It doesn’t matter because we know that Trump will bail us out. We don’t have anybody to buy our soy. You know, we used to sell it to China, and we used to sell a lot of things overseas, that was USAID. But we know that they’ll bail us out.

So anyway, there’s not a lot of urgency to get stuff done, and I live in California, where the people are afraid to  pick strawberries and things because they’re afraid of getting taken away.

I have two questions, and they’re very different. One is basically about the technology billionaires who, incidentally, wanted to buy up large swaths of the public land. It wasn’t for drilling; it was for setting up their own fiefdoms that would not be subject to federal or state regulations, so they would… they would have their own, like, city-states. And that was one reason why some of the places, like around Yosemite and Shasta and Tahoe were being set up to be sold.

Michael:  Hmm. Yeah.

Jillian:  Because they would like to own it, and they would like to control it. So anyway, so I see the tech billionaires as being obsessed with power and fear. I mean, they’re afraid of dying, and they’re afraid of having anybody have any control over their lives, but they’re afraid, and they’re angry, and I’m wondering is there any way that they can be stopped?

And I’m just going to throw out the other question, and you can answer whichever one you want. The other one is that I have tremendous worry about migrants, some of whom have documentation and some don’t. And if you live in California like I do… they’ve taught your kids, they’ve raised your kids, they… they do your yard, they cook your food. They are such a part of our lives. They are a part of our lives and culture, and to watch them treated so badly.

I’ve been standing in front of the, um immigration court this week, on Wednesday, and the dehumanized, and I don’t think the people who are taking them are actually anything more than thugs. I don’t think that they’ve been trained, even. I don’t know if that’s true, but it’s certainly my impression.

I came close to getting hit. All I did was stand in the way and said, “Excuse me, don’t be an asshole. This is a person.” And they were taken aback.  And then I told them how old I was, and they’re like, “Okay.”  Then it was “ I’m old enough to be your mother, don’t be like this.”   So I guess that one was a little bit susceptible to shame, and I’m not above it.

Michael:  Balling shame. Calling shameful behavior. Is exactly what we were talking about with emotional literacy and compassionate truth-telling, even if it’s confrontative. We commend you for doing that, by the way. That’s a… took a great deal of bravery. We realize that you may not think that in that moment it did anything.  But it shocked that person. And it… maybe it didn’t stop the process, but you shocked that person, y

Jillian: Maybe…. I just feel like…. No, he was in shame, Trump is in shame, he doesn’t… he’s afraid of going to jail, he’s afraid that….

Michael:  You alerted him that this is a shameful behavior, even if he’s a macho man stuffing it all. And it triggered that inside of himself.

Yes.

Jillian:  He’s going to… anyway, he’s a…. Afraid that we’re going to find out that he’s an idiot. The tech bros are scared of dying. They’re scared of having anybody take away their toys. It’s like, I’m looking at this, and are there ways,  I can picket and I can write letters and all this, but are they even defeatable? Are there ways to stop them?

Michael:    So notice you’re asking a rational question about something where you’re dealing with highly organized irrationality. And we would tell you, as we mentioned a few minutes ago, as we’ve cast our view, you know, into the next 50 years. We are sad to say that it looks like there will be some of these people that crumble as your systems crumble. What has to crumble first is the pretension of what capitalism is now, particularly financial capitalism.

But unfortunately, that’s also going to take a lot of you down to the bottom as well. You know? Then. The anger and the despair will meld into a force of radical opposition. But   one of the great ironies of all the powerful goodness that humanity has produced for itself is, again, it has created circumstances where many people have gone along, gone along, gone along because they’ve had so many things that work. The creature comforts, as we’ve called them. You know, every… more of you has more than humanity as a whole has. And your average citizen has more creature comforts than a king or a lord, or a pharaoh did. Any one of you, it including more buying power and more access to things with the exception of, say, slaves, and slavery is not literally legal anymore, but of course it’s practiced in many subordinate ways.

Where does this come back to the tech bros? First of all, eventually the tech bros are going to die.  And as they shake, one of the things about greedy narcissists is they never really stick together. And they don’t have the unity that you will all have.

The second thing is that there are a lot of their underlings who know they are just as let’s say, they’re vampire-lettes  And the big vampires may share a little of the blood with them, and we realize that that sounds like a very extreme analogy, but we don’t think so. We think it’s very apropos.

And… and there are those, you know, that we know. I mean, when you look at Jeffrey Epstein and that whole group of people, we know it’s there. You know what’s actually happening in the world at that level of elitism, where there are no consequence or no consequences enforced upon them.

And right now, staying metaphysical things like, oh, their Karma will come, and all these kind of things it’s really a hollow rationalization for people to default to those terms. It’s a way of trying to avoid the facts.

What will have to happen is direct and quite extreme resistance, confrontation in large numbers. And it’s not that they will give anything up or succumb. Elon Musk is not going to give anything up. It’s that his underlings of 2 or 3 layers underneath them who still have connections to the people down here. They’re the ones who will take them down and out.

So, I’m afraid we don’t have anything at this point, because  again so many… so many pivot points have been crossed. Where are these opportunities? Are there parallels? They were created, and considered, if you will, much less volatile than this one and much less destructive than this one.

By the way, in destruction, we’re not only talking about, unfortunately human lives, there’s many of you here who have. 4, 6, 8,  concurrent personalities. So your essence  has some sacrificial lambs for the… for the world to lose some of its population.

And as we’ve said to you. The reality as we’ve seen it is that part of what the Earth wants to do itself is to shed about a third of its population. And it’s going to do it in any number of means. Whether it’s starvations and famines from massive dislocations. Whether it’s disease vectors from new  pandemics. Or, you know, exterminations from wars, like what you’re seeing in Ukraine, but Ukraine is standing up for a good fight. But really seeing, in absolute its rawness in Palestine.

Even this whole attack of Israel to Iran, and then Trump jumping in on that. Our distraction tactics to get the West’s eyes off of the genocide that’s happening. So, what will also happen then, in the United States, is the die-off of a lot of old, you know, old people because of loss of healthcare.

The next pieces that will happen is the die-off of a lot of people who are homeless.  And many people will also be imprisoned. Because this is the most imprisoning country in the world, for the land of the free is hardly that.

Jillian:  Well, overseas, they’ve already set up concentration camps. They’ve hired… people to turn barracks and things into concentration camps in Texas and other places.

Michael: Yes, right.

Jillian:   I would not be surprised if I ended up in one. White and nominally Christian.

Michael: And while we don’t see that probability for you, because it’s not created yet. That’s the variability in the world.

We can tell you one thing. You’re white. And believe it or not, as terse and as uncouth as that may sound that is built in privilege that lends you some degree of protection. Like it or not and nominally Christian.

Jillian:   Yeah. I feel so much better.

Michael:  So, we realized that your option here, Jillian. Is to go and do something that is like throwing up your hands to some level of despair, like we mentioned earlier. That’s the option.

Jillian: I don’t do that.

Michael:  Exactly. Now, there’s the girl. Did you notice what we named it, ladies and gentlemen? We named her “Alternative”, and immediately as soon as she heard it, she said, “Bullshit, I’m not going there.” That’s where we said, hope is a warrior’s emotion. You do it in spite of the probabilities.

Jillian: Yeah…. And next week, I’m going to be learning how to shoot a gun. I’ve never touched one before.

Michael:  And we would tell you, that is actually a wise strategy. At least to know how to use it, and how to have that between you and the goon. We hope your aim is better than the goon’s.

Jillian: And the ultimate pacifist, but I’m going to learn how.  Oh, it will be.

Michael: Very good, very good.

Jillian: No, if you don’t use a gun to shoot it, you used it to show that you have it. Anyway. Oh, good, Barbara, you take it.

Michael:  And what we have said…. Yeah, well, what we have said, and we’re going to make this very clear to everyone. Ladies and gentlemen, a gun is the only tool in human creation that has only one purpose. It’s not target shooting. It is not skeet shooting. You know, it is not for intimidation, it is for killing. Period. Killing.

And when that, you know, in the last 25 years. Or the last 50 years, when all of the arguments over gun control and all that stuff was coming to a head the fact that more fear came up is what perpetuated the want for guns. And so, fear and guns. Go together, you know, sort of like salt in a wound.

So, uh, Barbara, you had your hands up. Thank you, Jillian.

Barbara: So, I want to shift a little bit, um, try and shift the energy.

Michael: Go right ahead.

Barbara: And there’s a gazillion different parallels. Okay? How many of the parallels, or what percentage of the parallels, are moving forward to the Mature Soul Age?

Michael: Right. You guys are constantly creating in a more positive way than we are. Right now, only about 40%. Yeah. And that’s… and yes, that is good, because at the beginning of this year we would have said it was… it was actually looking like about  25%. So….

Barbara: That’s a lot to me.  Okay, so yeah, I know it’s crazy here, but  the world is moving, the planet is moving, the souls are moving forward, we’re going to… we’re going to move forward.

Michael: We want to say something about that from the international standpoint, and then unless there are any questions, we’ll use this as the closing statement. Ladies and gentlemen, remember because you are all Americans, you tend to be U.S. centric in your questions and in your orientation, and needless to say, you’re bathed in the mindset and the milieu of this energy field.

But we want to tell you, you have a lot to be hopeful for outside of the United States. A lot to be hopeful for. There are a lot of populations who feel oppressed and who are madder than hell, and they’re ready to go at it with their own regimes, against their own regimes. But also, there are many regimes that are more ethical and are more progressive, and are saying, “We’re not going to let the United States bully us.”

I mean, you saw that at the last G7 meeting. That was a milestone of forward progression,   where the planet wasn’t working in a, quote, unified way, but they were drawing a line in the sand, saying, we will not be dragged down to that level of that continued oppressive and or reactive, fear-based intimidation. And that… those are wonderful and really useful signs. 9:11

Now, one of the things that… by the way, this ties in some of Jillian’s question and even to a degree, a tangent of Angela. And that is the thing that always gets addressed last, but at least Paige’s question had a little bit of it.

Ladies and gentlemen, you still got a lot to be concerned about with climate change, resource depletion, particularly water pollution. And the wildness of weather patterns that are coming out and happening more and more in an extreme way.

So many people talk about politics that they often don’t realize that politics are human  transactions and interactions. But nature is the milieu you live in. You have control of it only in the sense that you can… you can create such waste and such imbalance because of your abuse of the planet.

And you could make slow progress, but the further and further you get away from progress, and the more and more you dig yourself a hole the worse that imbalance is. And that still has to be dealt with. And that discussion still is not often at the forefront.

So… so anyway, folks, we want to thank you all for coming tonight. We hope it’s been useful to you. And we want to, as we said, hope is something to have because you’re going to make a future happen, you’re not going to succumb to a future. That is the mindset.

And you have all had personal experiences in 2025. Personal experiences, the ordinal where there have been pleasant things, good things, useful things, even when there have been shocks that have been around you. Things breaking down, cars…. Cars going bad, whatever, that have pivoted. And out of the unexpected have come new circumstances.

So, even people who have lost their jobs. You know, are finding themselves awash, at least in severances and things of that nature, at least for now.

You can pivot, you can do something, you can take a breath, you can move forward. But it will take a lot more effort from here on out. It’s not about just waiting for the universe to act. You are a member of the universe. You act first, and set an example for others, and the momentum will build in the direction you want it.  Otherwise, sit back, don’t do anything and the momentum continues to accrue to them.

But it’s a choice. So…. Again, we hope that’s been of use to you.

Stephen:  Thank you once again for all of you tuning up and participating. We will have the transcripts and the recordings available soon. for those of you who would like it, you can send an email. Otherwise I will be posting it all on the website for review probably within a week’s time.

Okay? So everyone,   Happy… happy….  Independence Day. Celebrate the Constitution.

Thanks all for coming. Be well, everyone. Bye now.