4th Qrtr. Overleaves Update & Transcript

An Evening with Michael – 9-26-25

Part 1 – Channeled Presentation

Part 2 – Audience Q & A

 4^th Quarter Review

Sep 26, 2025

Transcript by ZOOM Edited by Susan A. Flow

Stephen:   Allow me to introduce myself as I think you must know, because you’re here.  I’m Steven Cocconi and tonight we are going to have an evening with the Michael Consortium.  I’ll just explain, basically, the general structure.

I’d like to run very loose, friendly and have an interesting exchange. I consider all of you here both intelligent people and not because you’re here, just because you are you! But also quite capable of making up your own mind and also capable of contributing to the collective of this connection.

And I will go ahead and do my presentation of 22 or 23 slides. That’ll go along with a talk of what’s essentially a bit of a review of what’s gone so far in 2025. And then also,  some overview and not exactly predictions, but just kind of painting a picture of the prevailing energies that will come.  It looks like they’re going to be around for October and November and December, the remainder of the quarter.

For those of you who are new here to this thing, I welcome you, Stan particularly, because I know you’ve never been with me in a session. And I hope you find it, as I said, enjoyable.

And so it’s good to have you all. Alright just as a bit of a logistic, I do appreciate those of you who are listening maybe to at least mute yourself.  Not that I’m worried about any rudeness, but just in case, you know, a phone rings in the background, or somebody comes to your door, or something like that.

Then at the end of the presentation anyone is welcome to ask a question. The way I suggest we manage questions is there’s a React area down in the bottom of all the controls. And in that REACT statement, you can click on it. It gives you a whole list of things, including Raise Hand button which I’ve just demonstrated. And sometimes, if you want to just use the emoticons to make any kind of reaction such as the clap or the thumbs up, the heart, etc., all of the things that you see on Facebook.

Now, by the way, folks as much as I like to try and be as present as I can. It’s just me presiding over this and so I may miss things. So if somebody’s got a hand raised, I may not see it feel free to chime in and say, “Steve, question”, so stop me, if you will.

And then as far as those questions, as I said, you’re welcome to make them about anything. I ask for the sake of everyone’s benefit to be about at least somewhat related to tonight’s subject matter. But if you have a personal question, it’s okay to go ahead and ask it. It just may not get a deep response given time constraints and so forth.

So, alright, with that I’ll do what I always do, which is to just give myself a moment to bring in Michael.  And then what I’m going to do in addition to that is I will share the screen and then start off with the slides.

Tonight’s lecture commentary will be in concert for that.

So, before we start, I will just offer any of you that if you have any questions of me before we start, go ahead and unmute to quickly say it before I turn it over to the gang to begin.

Oh, yes, Mike, go ahead.

Mike: How do I pay you if I don’t have PayPal? Is there some way to… can I send you a check or something?

Stephen: Yeah, that’s fine. You can do Venmo, if that works for you, but check is fine. Yes, thank you for that. Yeah.

Mike: All right.

Stephen: In an effort to offer a little bit of commentary, not everyone has experienced 2025 in this way.  But some have, and I thought these images a little entertaining. This one, and the next one, that’s coming up on the screen, if I can get it to work, has also been something that I’ve experienced a lot.

You know, people who have had sessions with me have asked and I thought that this was also rather apocalypse of the kind of very open-ended energy that many of you have experienced in this Artisan year, as experiencing either indecisiveness or mixed messages.

 

 

 

 

This next one, I couldn’t help myself.  Some of you have probably run into the fortune-telling machines, Zoltar, and various arcades in the past, 20 years or so. It’s been out there a long time.

 

Stephen: And of course, it’s not unusual that, especially when I get a new client that a prediction is often asked about. And, of course, when I call the Consortium, I always tell you; “we are always happy to give you our opinion. We’ll give you probability about what might or could happen.  But it is not our forte, or purpose to do that kind of fortune-telling.” So we hope you had a little bit of a laugh. Zoltar is much better at that than we are.

Michael Consortium: So, welcome everyone, it’s good to have you, and thank you for attending tonight.

When we cast this last quarter of 2025, you can see we’ve got probably the three broad subject areas below to be incorporated as we review the Overleaves and talk about some of the trends over the next few months and that sort of thing.

 

 

 

And as you can see there, the first one is integrating the Shadow of masculine energy. And we want to be really clear, masculine energy doesn’t mean just men, ladies, because there’s a number of you women here who are more masculine energy than a handful of guys here. And so, it’s important to remember that it’s just as applicable to you being in a female body, because all people are made up of both masculine, feminine, yin and yang, Shakti and Shiva. What Jung call the Anima and the Animus. And so all of those qualities are generally known as the yin and yang, right?

Now, the second topic is to illuminate to you, to broaden your mind. We talked about, in the beginning of the year, that this Artisan year is the launching point of a 25-year arc of the planet, for all of you and so forth. And even though many of you are the real grays, as we humorously call you, this still means you’re here, you’re participating, you’re living, you’re going to be involved in this.

With the Goal of Discrimination as William James so famously said when he was talking about thinking, have you literally rearranged your prejudices in this process of the Goal of Discrimination, which is the negative pole?  Or have you actually used the Cynic and the Emotional Center to really actually reduce them or to just block them out, so you can open the space of your mind. Not so much to have to be anything, except to have more room for current present perception.  4:08

And in that current present perception comes this last one. That is the idea of, in this new arc arrangement that we talked about above, is the literally meeting or exploring new people that you meet.  But also, looking at some of your historical relationships, I may be even reframing them. Now, some of you know during the whole COVID period, we had talked about that a lot of people left old relationships or rekindled ones that they hadn’t been in a while. That little venue has come back around for visit.

So, before we proceed into the Overleaves themselves, we want to make a point. For those of you who know our teachings, you know that one of the more interesting and sometimes very important discussions is about the basic spiritual needs if you will, kind of programed from on high, from Essence into the personality. And we said that this year, the emphasis of those needs are going to be the need for power, the want for security, and the desire for expression. And expression, particularly as it says here, to be heard, to be recognized, and recounted.

 

 

Now, we want you to understand, that’s humanity-wide. And as you all know, most of you here are Old and the rest of course are Mature at least.  But the realization is that even Baby and Young souls and even Infant souls all pursue these needs at an unconscious level in their own way.  And we will come back and reiterate that as we go on. 6:04

One of the things, then is to put this into context, since we mentioned Soul Age, we’re going to explore a few minutes here. We’re dealing with as far as the context the world and the struggles out there. Because soul-age perspectives are literally mass world views of group-think that all equally cohabitate within societies.

Now, admittedly, Stephen is American, All of you are, at least are of the Western modern Europeans, so we’re not speaking predominately to the entire world, even though we will mention some things internationally, we’re talking mostly about the United States and the West.

But as you all come into the Mature Soul era, there’s a bigger issue that many of you who don’t know the Michael Teachings even recognize.  And you think of it mostly in terms of technology, but it’s bigger than that.  This is an image of complexity:

 

Pay homage to Joe and Catherine, because this is from Spidey Hall in Georgia. This is their pipe organ, but I thought it actually represented beautifully a conception, a beautiful understandable conception of what complexity looks like.

Notice you’ve got 3 major octaves of keyboard. Then you’ve got all those additional electronic and sound muffling or enhancing Poles on the side. All those switches, both at the bottom and the top. 7:53

Now, if you were to take and do a mathematical evaluation of this, many of you can see that this is a factorial that has at least on the face of it, 10,000 combinations easily. To borrow something from the philosopher Lao Tzu, who thought that the number 10,000,  represented close to universal infinity in his version of Taoism.

But why this is significant is because as you can see from this device, it’s come home to roost.  And many of the concurrent systems that you as human beings have to face create  very complex things that you have to navigate through.  It doesn’t mean that they’re always complicated. It doesn’t always mean that they’re hard.

But what can make them complicated is when you, as a person can see when either you, yourself, or other people are literally systematically plotting out, or negating, or hiding from, or just denying the existence of complexity. And therefore, making decisions on things that are not complete.

And the Mature Soul era that the rest of humanity is evolving into for the rest of this century, and for the next three millenniums, we’ll have to come to face this.  And of course it’s been ushered in to existence, and something we’ll talk about later, and that is something that everyone has expressed curiosity, interest, and or concern about, and that’s, of course, artificial intelligence. It’s something we call the Technological Realm.

So, the three soul ages in play, in this soul-age transition starts with the Baby souls.

 

And you can see some of the phrasing and tools we have here, and you can see by this cartoon the Baby soul’s basic orientation at their stage of evolution is that “Other” is frightening. “Other” is always out there, so there’s very little if any introspection at the Baby Soul Era of soul age.

And probably they are about 20% of the current planet a great deal of the portion of rural populations in the United States are Baby souls.  And so their perceptions, their way of coming at things, their political beliefs are all based on some of what we’re about to tell you. That is, if I feel ashamed or if I feel anything that I don’t like, it’s your fault, it must be the “Other”.  And their reaction to the “Other” is formulated, usually, by the standards of whatever their group says.

So that group-think is very prominent and of course, you’ve seen that in a number of movements especially in reactionary movements both in here and in Israel. Also in various South American and Eastern European countries.

But the major thing we wanted to talk about is that there’s an obedience to power, obedience to power, So they give over a lot of that power and you’ll see a lot of that, working now.

For those of you who like, or are interested in the slideshow, by the way, we will post it when we post the presentation on our website, for review, so you can look and then follow along with the themes there. 11:23

Now, the second one, then, is the Young Soul orientation, and notice we put on both of them, we’re talking about the Negative Poles. Because, in many ways, the Baby souls in the Positive Poles, are open to a level of wanting to have things spelled out and truth and goodness.  And the Young soul has a willingness to participate in dynamic change and so forth.

But in the Negative Pole, it’s Goal is Acquisition. It’s view of life is very materialistic in the sense that whatever experiences it has it’s got to be associated with something that it can identify with, physically associate to and in many cases want to control.

So when you blend that Baby and Young soul, which is the outgoing paradigm, but still, one that is in its last great gasp you can see that what happens in those Negative Pole  persons is what you see in much of American capitalism today.  And there is a lot of big businesses capitulating and going along with a status quo, because they see that as the way that they’re going to preserve their power and money.

Now, here’s where the big, long leap into the unknown is still yet to be created. Like Zoltar said, and that’s the Mature Soul orientation as an entire… in the American case, the American political system.  But also, in the world ethos.  It’s starting to look away from consumption of the Earth to preservation of the Earth.

And as you can see, the growing number of people becoming conscious of the fact that with resource depletion, with people that are on the planet, and then the sheer rate of accumulation and of stuff that people have in many countries,  is overwhelming and producing waste and that is diminishing the Earth itself. So that’s the stakes that this next 25-year arc that we’ve talked about is happening at.

One of the things we want to just add into the mix tonight is some terminology and additional refinement in alignment with the notion of the Goal of Discrimination, which has the positive expression of Discernment. And, going into Mature Soul reality, which is beyond just binary, beyond dualism, beyond just either/or and help you remember that this is a spectrum. A spectrum that has many complex expression possibilities, and potentialities.

But one of the things that we thought was really essential tonight, especially with the political system heating up even more than it has been, is we wanted to introduce to our teaching in tonight’s talk the Jungian notion of the Shadow.  Because we think it’s really important for those of you to get a hold of the reality that if you can get in touch with and own your Shadow side, one of the things that will happen is that your reactivity to “Other” the Baby Soul part of yourself, let alone Baby Souls, you will feel more power within yourself to be conscious, deliberate, less knee-jerk in the way that you happen. 15:25

Why is that?  Because  we’ll talk about when we add Shadow into the notions of something that we’ve been talking about the last couple of years. You all know the concept of Essence that’s been with us since the beginning of our teaching and we talk about that from the idea of the common idea of soul, but the Essence comes in with the Role, it’s Soul Age, it’s Masculine-Feminine Energy Ratio that it took on at creation, a Frequency that is it’s natural pacing, and then, of course, at any particular lifetime, whatever is it’s karmic agenda.

The personality is who you are, all of you are, in attendance tonight.  You are the persons that your Essence, planted in a body in this time of history. It’s the summation of your DNA influences, with also the influences of your predilections, those innate what we call Overleaves. And what you also have the opportunity to do here. And every one of you, in one way or another, has been through a spiritual program, whether this one or we know that some of you are 12-steppers. Others we know are engaged in other particular and just as laudable teaching methodologies.

You know that the ultimate desire is the desire to present an authentic self. And the authentic self is always in an emergent state. It is never just, “Okay, now I’ve reached it.”   As a matter of fact, ladies and gentlemen, the humorous part of it is, if you ever hear anyone say they’ve reached full expression of self, you know they’re talking from their ego.

We’re not talking about ego in the sense of the ego being egotistical; that we are in that reference, but we’re talking now about the ego as being the subject face of your personality. Or should we say public face depending on who you are interacting with.

Now we want to point out here and give some credit to our colleague Troy Tolley for having come up with the concept of Public Overleaves. And JP Van Hulle and Steve Cocconi as using, as us developing with them the notion of sub-personalities.

 

 

Why their ego states, or why they present to the ego, is because they don’t have to be false. they don’t have to be untrue; they don’t have to be anything that’s faked. What they are is, they’re crafted to deal with circumstances. Every one of you has an ego persona that you have brought out in your professional life.   Every one of you has an ego persona that you have crafted that may show, that has some combination of your authentic self that you brought out to your family. While others of you belong to various organizations or clubs or what have you or do different activities. You have an aspect of yourself that you’ve trotted out there.

And it’s usually partial. And that’s what the ego does. It is the interface. Why this is significant is because we bring it up in context of Shadow, the Shadow side is the part that we generally don’t see because we just put on any one of these personas at any given time. And yet people who view us can see them.

So, in this 25-year arc and this first Artisan year, of Discrimination, Cynic Attitude, Power mode, Emotional Center the entire thrust has been and we will re-reiterate again this tonight, is that for you to understand that anybody’s moralizing, including your own, is really largely at the emotional level.

But what’s been really essential to try and get a hold of is understanding that even your Shadows can reveal themselves in your moralizing. But also, in your statement of ethics, the way you actually treat people and the way that you interact with them, and how that will be, needless to say, going forward really nuanced and giving you the opportunity to discover yourself anew and more especially as you craft yourself for this 25-year arc.

As we said, you’re all…many of you here are in your 50s, most of you in your 60s and 70s, not sure if we have any of the 80-year-olds here.  Understand that those Shadows have helped make you who you are. But to the degree to which you could be less reactive to them or the boss of them, instead of “they” the boss and you.  It doesn’t mean you make them go away. Doesn’t mean you shamed them. But also, what it means if you’re not afraid of seeing them, that means you can see in others and say, “Oh, you know, I recognize that.” Even if you don’t like it. And if you can do that, then you’ve got more power, personal power in this situation. 21:00

So we said a bunch of things, and we said a few things you know, reminding you about, the Overleaves in various ways.

So, talking about the major characteristics… Now, for some of you who are less familiar, but who come here because you may be a student of Steve, you remember that this combination of qualities that we have here are what we’re calling Overleave influences derived from our teaching and what we call the Overleave chart.

Now, it’s available on the website for those of you who want to download and see it, but each of these I think it was on the left. And the terms next to them represent major categories from that.

 

And every year the Tao kind of rearranges things, and superimposes these on humanity as a whole, and even the earth sphere itself. And you, regardless of what your Overleaves are and what your Role is you are influenced by these. You catch a flavor of them. And this doesn’t mean that you like them, or that you’re familiar with them or that you do well with them. But nonetheless, just to put those in context.

So this year, we talked about that this was an Artisan year, and we said it’s a Warrior casting.  So what a Warrior casting would be as a secondary Role, is it makes it a more solid, even, kind of a more confronting Artisan than the potential for flamboyance, which many of you who know our teaching, or who may be Artisans yourself can relate to.

Now, the Goal of Discrimination, also known as Rejection in the older terms, it’s a very rigorous Goal.  Because, as we mentioned earlier, it says, “Really refine your prejudices or be careful of applying your prejudices.”  Certainly, we see that kind of enshrinement of prejudices across many, many fields of society and social conversations.

But one of the hardest Attitudes to deal with but one of the most useful is the Attitude of Cynic. Now, I want to be clear, Cynic can feel pessimistic in its broadest application of the idea.  But we want to be clear that the Cynic in its Positive Pole is about Debate. It’s about argument. It’s about challenge. It’s the Warrior’s Attitude and it says, “Put up or shut up. Prove to me that this is worth something.”  In the Negative you can get that just absolute teardown, denigration that you are seeing in many quarters of the world.

But if you use cynicism by saying, “Whatever I believe in, whatever I have, whatever I think, whatever my relationships are, do they stand test of really being substantive”. And hopefully this year, you guys really went through a lot of your material items, your own ideas, your needs, what you think you need is as opposed to what really you bottom line need to get through life and even be happy and did a lot of shedding, because Discrimination and Cynicism  together really help at the sharpened edge to cut a lot of junk away.

And if people don’t cut a lot of junk away they will be very hostile, very unsatisfied and very unhappy, and with that Chief Feature of Martyrdom that’s down there very outraged, very mean, very attacking. And of course, these are trends you’re all seeing.

So folks, as you hear this, notice, obviously, we’re using the terminology as literally descriptors as to the current circumstances, as well as what you might do to utilize them.

The Power Mode is very important. It is the Sage Mode. That means the method is about communicating, expressing your voice, your values, your love but being determined that you will not be silenced. And so, this year, we see some of you here who have just taken that mantle of refusing to be shut down or stopped and really participating in stating your claims.

Now in the Negative Pole of Power Mode it is still also about Communication. But it is usually about communication, about sounding a drumbeat, a common theme about obedience, about oppression  About usually accusation, especially when it’s paired with cynicism.

So,  the Centering in the Emotional Part, the Emotional Center and the Intellectual Part. You want to make a distinction here, because we think it’s really important, because a key word has come out as a result of the recent assassination of Charlie Kirk. And one of his big advocacies was, it was then chimed in with much of the ultra-right wing is,   “Kill empathy; it’s a waste of emotion.”

Well… it’s impossible to do that. What they are trying to say more accurately is if you have empathy and you can actually relate to another person’s feelings, they don’t want that, because then there will be a tendency for them to lose the power they have.

And what I want to differentiate is compassion is a choice on empathy. Because compassion is literally an intellectual decision; how you then moderate your interaction with another person.

And on that scale of empathy, there is Compassion to Nullity, which is completely not caring at all.  Sympathy then degenerates into Pity then ultimately Contempt on the other end.  So contempt at one end and compassion at the other.

Compassion        Sympathy         Pity           Contempt        Nullity

I want you to understand that is the interaction of what you have to work with the Intellectual Part in the Emotional Center.

The Masculine-Feminine Energy Ratio, we said that the Tao made this year predominantly masculine.  For many of you, you say, “Oh my God, this whole business about men!” And again, we interrupt and say, this is not just about males or people in male bodies.  It’s about masculinity at large but it’s also about masculine energy.  But as you’ll see in a slide coming up, we might shock you with what we’ll have to say about all of you having to own masculinity for yourself, and what you choose to do with it.

Now, the Frequency of 64; a lot of people have told us that they’ve experienced, this is really weird, things that have thrown them out of their own pacing.  People who are higher frequency meaning your own natural pace is kind of quicker. Many have reported that you’ve enjoyed it. It’s felt more upbeat, which it can be true for you.

Some of you in lower frequencies and said, “Oh no, riding this faster pace has been okay”, because it’s given you a chance to kind of use it as a wave and not necessarily, tire you out. But for those who’ve tried to fight it, or those who don’t know how to adapt to it, it can be very, very tiring. 29:26

We also want to say about Frequency that some of you found that it is made time distortions really weird, really weird. Sometimes things you think should just take a few moments all of a sudden, it ended up taking days or weeks. And the flip has been true. Things that you were worried about or that you weren’t sure you could do, you started, were engaged, and all of a sudden you were well underway.

So, why this was significant is because when the Tao arranged this year, especially in this Artisan energy it was trying to get many of you out of your habituated patterns of expectation. Therefore, getting you to pay attention to the natural timing of things, and then how do you then measure effectiveness?  You just keep checking in and then notice the really emotional, almost the Moving Center Emotional state of “Oh, I’m done.” when energy leaves it. Sometimes things just need to be finished up.  You start using that as your guide, rather than your clock, your calendar, or your scheduler or your expectation.  It throws you into a whole new world of being and out of a lot of your habituated patterns.

So, the Ordinal realm, we just want to mention that this has been a very personal year for most of you. You had to do all of this work yourself. Many of you have utilized this energy of Artisan creativity and even rebuilding with Artisan energy and Discrimination  to your best personal uses.  The key word there has been personal.

Now, in the next year, when it turns to an Exalted year and it will, we will tell you that we would hope and we will let you know that the pull is going to be project your energy into and to bring your attentions to focus on more the outside world. A lot of the interactions between you and people, and co-actions, between you and others. So Ordinal tends to be an inward focusing when we use the term this way. And even how that looks we’ll talk about this as we continue on.

Now, so those are the influences.

Now as we began to talk about it, the Artisan energy was all year. And of course, it has been about expressing yourself. For some of you who felt like you had to dig out of a lot of things, or using the terms we’ve just introduced unbury yourself from a lot of Shadows or had a lot invested in your ego persona instead of your genuine personality, natural self, who you are, unapologetically, but also uncensoredly  and to do as much as you could do, genuinely, vulnerably, without a lot of having to stake a claim at some great, exhibit of yourself. As Oscar Wilde said, “You might as well be yourself, because everyone else has already been taken.”

 

So, this Artisan energy has been pushing all of you to essentially reorient who you are and how you are to reduce what you’re carrying around so that your battery doesn’t deplete, like the left-handed image shows. Just an acknowledgement with this particular slide, folks is that Discrimination is not only about elimination and exclusion, rejection or rescission.  It’s about refinement and discernment and arrangement.

 

And these are some of the areas that all of you have had to play around in, not all of you equally.  Oh, but we’re talking about selfhood as a form of identity.  One of the great things on the Physical Plane that those of you who are familiar with this teaching know that we say, the most optimum experience, the greatest amount of spiritual work you can do is when you sense the input and natural kind of predispositions of Essence manifest in who you are as a self, your personality, your name and as congruent, congruently expressed with how you are in the world.  And some of them, some of those worldly things, as you can see, some of these things are things that were presented to you by birth, your family and friends. Some of them were chosen, some of them you just kind of got from around you; your ethnicity, of course, your appearance, whether you were born thin or fat, tall, or short.  And then whatever habits you developed or didn’t develop. What you’ve accumulated in your life, all these things have been up and on the plate.

Now we will give our moment to editorial, we have suggested that the Overleaves of this year have really, really, really encouraged, the happier you will be for the next 25 years, the less stuff you will have. By stuff we’re talking about predominantly material items.

But after that, the less stuff goes to the less of your burdens, about who you think you should be, what you perceive that you owe or obligate. And instead focus whatever remaining energy of your life into joy, appreciation, satisfaction as consciously and as deliberately as you can. And the more you let go of Shadows, or at least face them, and own them, the more that space will be created.  And you could do it.

Now, we just want to point out that we decided to interject this little editorial image here.  We want you to take a look at it.  And we know that most of you are Old Souls. And most of you may count yourself on the more centrist or liberal side. It doesn’t mean that all of your belief systems don’t have areas where you have blurred the lines between realities and fictions. And of course, that’s where most people’s prejudice comes from, in the Negative Pole of Discrimination. It’s those fictions that you have an emotional charge to.

And why we show you this picture is on the surface of it, many of you go, “Yeah, I’m sure what, okay, ice and creatures in the ice.” But some of you are aware enough of zoology to know that the polar bear is at the North Pole and the penguin is on the South Pole. These two animals never, ever meet in nature. In other words, these two ideas, these two concepts, have no business being together, but people blend them because of the background idea. So, using that as a standard for yourself, just go in and look. What are your beliefs about money in a person’s status or quality of a human being? What about their color, what about their political affiliations? What about how you judge your own beliefs about being good, right, whole and clear and somebody else’s being stupid.

Doesn’t mean that you won’t come up with some of the same answers. What we are asking you is to notice if you infused them with an emotion that has been otherwise unnecessary to have there, or them  But rather as a place inside of your own Shadow that you haven’t resolved yet.

Now we’re going to the outside world, because this has really been important for us to say. Folks, when people in the Negative Pole of Power Mode hook up with their own Discrimination the possibility for self-censorship let alone acceptance of outer world censorship, and we all know that one of the things that has just happened, is that the fight about expression in the world is really up and cooking.

Now, we had to bring this into this quarterly presentation, because the ramifications of these two men, or at least what has gone on with these two men, is going to be with you for the remainder of this quarter. But we thought we would try and personify the idea of the Chief Feature of Martyrdom, and how it actually looks when it happens in a social situation.  38:50

 

 

So, on the right side or excuse me, ironically on the left side of this screen I have Charlie Kirk representing the person who was killed, murdered by an assassin. As you can see, he is a Late Baby, Priest Scholar Casting.  Who is vociferously pro-free speech.  And some might call it hate speech, but now he’s been embraced as a martyr for his cause.  Okay?

Well as backlash against that, you had this talk show host, Jimmy Kimmel who we get   as a Sage fourth level Mature, so very different soul-age orientations, right? And very different in their perception of what truth is and what communication rights are. Well, he gets canceled by those corporate Young Souls that you saw in the picture with their, heads in the sand, business suits.

He became a lightning rod, a martyr if you will, for the left to galvanize that energy. This energy of these two people, well not two people, per se, but rather the actions that happened upon these two people made into martyrs for the next quarter and for some time to come.

Alright, so here’s what we wanted to say, and actually, we could actually get rid of this MAD magazine thing, but we thought it was illustrative. Please follow along in the larger text, because this is the challenge to you folks.

And we realize it’s a challenge that may surprise you coming from a channeled Entity, and presumptions that we’re all into love and light and never, never speak about things that are considered Shadow or dark. And yet that will not do you a service.

So many of you who’ve played with our Michael Motivation cards notice that we put the tagline to masculine energy ultimately is the killer instinct.  If the feminine energy is the  birth instinct, the mother instinct then the killer instinct is on the other end of the spectrum.

So understand, it’s not good, bad, right or wrong, or anything. It is the beginning and the ending. It is the… it is the initiation and the termination. Notice we are using more neutral language there.  But when you bring it down to a social level of a soul-age transition like you are experiencing now,  we regret to tell you or at least remind you  that we have been saying for the last several years that the opportunity to make the Soul Age transition much less violent, that window has shrunk.

And the probability of it being more violent, not necessarily overtly like war but certainly ugly in the way humans treat each other both physical violence, emotional violence, violence and abuse violence against rights. When it comes down there to the possibility of actual aggression violence, aggressive violence, it looks like in the United States that likelihood is ticking upward.

We want you to be able to ask yourselves, and this is a deep meditative challenge for the rest of the time of this year, for you to consider. Ask yourself the question, what would you actually kill for, or fight and die for. Because if you challenge that Shadow inside of yourself instead of running from it, pretend it’s not there, then, you will find yourself actually having a great deal more of personal power reside in you without necessarily ever having to lift a finger or commit any kind of act against anyone. But it’s to know the shape of the authentic parts of you that you may have to deepen, dive deep to access.

And again, you know, why this is interesting for MAD magazine in 1968 is because if you read any of this list, you will see this is almost the bulleted list that today’s American nationalists and the far right wing utilize and then call themselves patriots.

So, they’re the ones who are the most likely, to start violence. And you might not necessarily be the direct targets, but you could be. And so at least ask yourself the question, if you forgive the pun, arms you with self-awareness and knowledge. 44:12

 

 

Now, the last couple of things, again, the positive use of Cynicism is to always contradict your uncertainties. And as it says here considering how hard it is to change yourself, right?  And you’ll understand why it’s so hard to see change around you. But the point being if you challenge yourself, your own uncertainties, and you don’t drop into the helplessness of “poor me” to Martyrdom then you’ll come out a lot more potentially healed of yourself, and a lot more potentially potent in contributing when you have in the world.

 

Once again, a reiteration as you know, the Negative Pole of Martyrdom is Victimhood. And so when you go into your person, your own self, the one that you live with inside your skin, when you’re talking about your thoughts, remember, compassion is a choice. You don’t have to make compassion but we really encourage you to pay attention, to be very cautious of the opposite end of that spectrum we talked about, which is contempt. Because that’s a choice. It’s not just a feeling. It is a choice of attitude.

Empathy, having empathy doesn’t mean you have to agree or say, or “poor them”, and say “I’ll just forget about everything that you ever did”, and sympathy.  As a matter of fact, I would say that many of you throughout the New Age ever since the Reagan era have put aside any of those masculine energy kind of qualities.   And wanting to be so empathic but you also forgot to have limits, boundaries, standards and principles.

And then, of course, your behavior is, how do you act? Do you fuse your actions? You choose where you get involved, you choose, or do you just retire from the field? Do you hide?  All of these are things that you can just examine as thought experiments without ever having to change anything, if you will.

But the more you go into the Mature Soul era which we have also called the conscious awareness cooperation era of history… Now, notice those words conscious awareness  cooperation era of history…you have to go deeper in order to go forward.

Here we mention the space-time issue again. We just did it in a graph, we don’t really need to repeat that.

 

So let’s just bring up our conversation about the next 3 months, and feel free, folks, to ask us questions when it’s your time.  So we will tell you the tenor of the next 3 months. For most of you, Mature and Old souls, most of you are here, you’ll experience still continued time, probably with more introspection for the desire to actually be at least a little bit more social and wanting to be social in order to restore those energies that we talked about.

We showed you the glimpse of the Artisan image running down because authentic self-expression will recharge your batteries. Now, what it means in real life, in real terms, is for those of you who are in the midst of doing things, like, you know, if you’ve got house projects, or if you got a trip planned, or if you’ve got unfinished business, like taxes, or outgoing communiques, or heaven forbid court issues, work your best to complete those as much as you can.

And we can tell you, because of the shifting tides of economics, we can tell you that in October, if you’re going to make big purchases, do them and do them fast because by November into the first 6 months of 2026 prices are going to spike, and inflation’s going to go really high.

So make your creative, but also tangible creations happen if you can over the next 30 days, and you think you’ll be very happy. You can feel satisfied and feel rejuvenated with a lot of that doing.

Then, when you hit November if you’ve done that, your world is going to personally feel more open. And the world’s outlying experiences are not going to feel as oppressive, even though you may find that paradoxical to hear. You will notice it in your own spirit.

Now, that stability we would just say use it for doing anything you can to finishing any clean ups that you need to do. Eliminating any of distractions that take up your time. And most importantly, really just kind of notice where and when your mind wants to take you into helplessness. Because eliminating helplessness is, especially what’s called by psychologists “learned helplessness” and modern consumer society is  a trainer of learned helplessness.  And so is “doom scrolling” on the web and that sort of thing. Try and get out of those. I would say, as we mentioned at the Mature Soul slide try and get yourself into nature as absolutely much as possible. Get away from screens.

Now, by December, hey, we think many of you can have just wonderful experiences. If   those people who you have sorted through, both new and old, if you have taken the time to reach out to during November and more so into December to really rekindle that we think that you can experience, and be able to share, and actually preserve and raise a lot of love vibration.

You will also see that anybody that you share that vibration, even with a kind word or a smile, in any way, shape, or form you will notice them having a moment of raised vibration.   And raised vibration it’s not just feeling happy, happy. We’re not talking about that.  We’re talking about the ability of a person to just breathe and feel seen.

So when you spread that over and what we said here, is that it can be a very motivating time to feel like you want to give gifts. And that’s wonderful. It’s not just because of the Christmas season, although that’s been programed into you.

What I’m saying is… is whatever gifts you give this year, we invite you to use this very reductionistic negation energy that 2025 has had as far as cleaning stuff away and so forth.  And make your gifts way more personal, way more thoughtful. Give gifts just for the sake of gift-giving. Because if you do that and you find yourself still in obligation, then you can be sure that one of Martyrdom’s favorite little trolling hooks called resentment will come in and get you.

So we hope you enjoy these next 3 months. We think, you know, the energies are going to be conducive for many of you. Rut reduction and elimination and reading  things meaningful, is the kind of key theme for them. 52:30

One last things we have to say is we mentioned the technical realm, and of course, all of you are amazed that in this year, or the end of last year, AI, was talked about. Now AI is talked about everywhere.  Folks, we want you to understand their business models more than the technology is a threat.

Growing capture of your attention and your data is more a troubled to you, but that’s also where you have your power. Like that monkey on the side just sitting there watching, and this guy over here on the right, who’s now confronted with all these different screens.

Just turn them off, just turn them off!  Recapture your attention and take it out to real life in the world.

One of the things that we said earlier this year, that still goes and will go on is that one of the problems with the modern a technological realm infiltration through AI but also through the way that conditioning has ramped up. Complexity has become complication.

The distinction there is complication doesn’t have to be a part of complexity. What makes it complicated is that decisions and options and benefits are given unequally. And in ways that many of you weren’t even aware that’s going on behind the scenes.

And so, just pulling yourself back as much as you can to the degree that you have to participate in the complexity of the world, like with your finances, and all those things. Make those things as clear as possible and interact with humans as much as you can.

So, we’ll just call it a day. And we’ll just put the spin on it as we turn it over to you.

 

The Positive Pole of the Power Mode is Authority, authorship, auteur, the invention that one makes. And so, this Artisan arc has also been about what’s the world you want to contribute to for the next 25 years, not just the “You”, but the world you want to build. So, as David Wolf down there said, focus on promoting what you love, not just bashing and hating.

And with that, we will tell you that that is the best way to actually get the end of this year moving forward in a way that, in spite of all the experiences that are going out there in the world, you can rest your vibration at a higher level and cope with your Shadows and the Shadows of others, in a way that is much more effective and potentially much more empowering. 55:39

So, we thank you for listening and we hope that’s been of some interest to you and useful to you. And as always we don’t know if you have experienced this as uplifting, but at least in the directions that we’ve tried to provide for you that there is at least some instruction for your own empowerment.

 

Question and Answer Period

So, with that we will turn it over to any of you who wish to ask questions. If you would just go ahead and start off using the React button to raise your hand. Any question is valid and legit. So, please go ahead.

Mike has raised his hand.  Mike why don’t you go ahead?

Mike: Okay, I’m curious about this idea of getting rid of stuff. I think I understood you to say that this can raise your happiness. Is that because it gets rid of the distractions that all that stuff has, so you can focus on the things that make you happier? I wasn’t sure I understood that.

Michael Consortium: That is one major slice of it, but here’s the other thing. We could throw this out to all of you. How many of you guys got full storage facilities or full garages, or full rooms full of stuff that you absolutely completely hide from yourself, in avoidance or denial?  Because it is this big, huge quantity of dead energy that is literally taking up some of your psychic space. You’re ignoring it. It’s still taking up… Thank you Terri, we love your little smiley face, thank you for that.

Bye Elizabeth, thank you for coming.

So, just even getting to that dead energy offers you literally, physical room in your house, or it saves you on the storage, you know the storage fee that you have to pay every month.  Or you could get into your garage, and for some of you, like you, Mike, who likes to tinker around with things, you actually have a workspace.  Those are all rejuvenating to your energy; you’ve streamlined to use a familiar term, right?

So, did that… did that help at least clarify some of the whats?

Mike: Oh yeah, very much, actually. Thank you.

Michael Consortium: By the way, folks, we’re not saying that any of you I have to do anything. If you are happy and content with your life, we’re offering you these things as description to help you notice where some of your dead energy is. Some of your energies may be stuck, and you’ve just so ignored them, kept them in Shadow, in other words that until you address them, you go, “Oh, wow. God, that feels so much lighter”, or “I don’t know what to do with this room.” But of course, the humor is, for many of you, it’s “Now I got all this room I can fill it again” Right? That’s consumerism and your conditioning, playing on you. But some of you might actually find sitting in an empty room, maybe with just a candle  or in Terry’s case, her crystals, you might find it the most absolutely liberating space of peace and manifest unclutter that you could have. By simply having an empty room.

Michael Consortium: Terri, we’re on you.

Terri: I just wanted to comment how much I have seen these things that you’re talking about manifest in other people, and a little bit in myself. But how absolutely right-on so much of this has been to what I have been experiencing.

And I wanted to point out that because I decided to write down every word I could of what you said and what was on the screen I didn’t fall asleep. It’s one of the first times I didn’t.  I always fall asleep in presentations.  The more information coming my way, the more my subconscious wants to just take it, I guess. But my conscious got it this time.

Michael Consortium: Well good. It is certainly interesting and noteworthy to talk about the… as a Scholar, the absorption of energy is sometimes best handled through the subconscious and not the conscious.    But you decided to consciously and overtly commit your attention, your personality’s attention and then have to transcribe a lot of these things is obviously a useful strategy for you. So, we’re glad that, first of all, it worked for you. And well, secondly, that you enjoyed it.  Thank you for the affirmation that you have noticed the trends that we’re talking about.

So, again, thank you with that. Anything else on your comment, or that you wanted to add into that?

Terri: No.

Michael Consortium: Okay, very good. Thank you for sharing that.  Alright, Kerrin you’re up.

Kerrin: I was just going to share, since you brought up Shadow work, which I desperately need to do personally. And since it’s an Artisan year, they do make a coloring book, to work on your Shadow.

I thought I would share this. It’s been sitting next to my desk since January.  Because, you know, this is why I need to work in my Shadow, but I just wanted to let everyone know that maybe if anybody wants to work on the Shadow, they do make this.

Michael Consortium:  Thank you. Thank you, Kerrin. No, that’s excellent. Because, folks, we want to say, we don’t want your Shadows to be threats to you, in yourself anymore. So if handling it in a way that engages your child, like through a coloring book or…

We actually know a person who has a lot of stuffed animals including mythical animals that represents characters out of her subconscious. You know Jose Stevens  characterized the Chief Features as dragons. Well, the dragon is probably one of, if not the most cited Shadow image, there you go!  There it is.

So looking at your own Chief Feature as we’re meeting doing some of the things. We found dragon images that characterize each of the seven Chief Features, and they all differ. And so we’ve got to get busy to posting memos on the website, but in any case, nonetheless, whether we post them or you just do them yourself.

Another thing that we would suggest is just close your eyes for a thought experiment. Just for 30 seconds and imagine opening up one of three things. Either a big closet, a storage shed or going into a cave. We can tell you any one of those images as your starting place when you go in there, you will find lots of your Shadow things.

They might not all be frightful at all. Some of them might be you forgot to bring out the part of you that loves to laugh. You’ve gotten so serious in a way that it’s gotten delegated to Shadow.

So there’s any number of ways of dealing with engaging it, and so forth. And when you go in there by the way and you encounter them, you can review these objects that appear in there and maybe it’s nostalgia that you hold onto it with. Meaning  that you   find something and say, “Oh my God, I know I’ve got this in storage somewhere. This was my late sister’s, Oh my God!”, you know?

You look at it and you realize that it’s the feeling and that connection to the person and not the thing. When you can make that realization, then you can make resolve, and you can bring the love and affection of that through the Emotional Center back into the self and let the thing potentially go.

Doesn’t mean you have to, but we think that many of you, actually find that you rigorously start getting rid of things that just bog your life down. You’ll be astounded what the lightness feels like when you have space.

Thank you for that, Kerrin. And you had a question in addition?  No, well thank you for sharing that. Very much appreciated.

Alright, who’s next? Anyone?  All right  there we go. Kathryn you’re next.

Kathryn: just as a curiosity, again, with Terri, I agree, there’s so much of what has been talked about, and I’ve also seen. And I really appreciate the information about Shadow self,  I can see some ways that I can now do some deep, deep diving and find out what’s going on in places, maybe find some resolution somewhere.

But I wanted to know more about how the external world is going to experience October. You talked about how October would open up for some if we’ve done the preparation work. We’re starting October 1st with a potential shutdown of the government. How do you foresee that heading out, because that brings up security issues, like, if we don’t get a lot of the… those of us on government pensions, Medicaid and things like that, Social Security.  What are the impacts going to be? I know we can face them, but what is the current direction that things are going on? 1:06:25

Michael Consortium: Right. Some of the potential ramifications are, is we think it’s… the shutdown is going to be booted down the road a couple times.   Republicans, particularly the Speaker of the House is much more pragmatic than the Maniac-in-Chief. And so their looking at and probably will have it closer to the middle of October rather than the beginning of October. At that particular time, many of you will have gotten your pension checks, or a number of you will have.   A feeling of fiscal freak out won’t happen so much in October.

But what will freak-out for a number of people, will particularly be, which you’ve already seen, but really will crescendo is when farm subsidies are supposed to come into play  throughout that first quarter of … I should say the last quarter of 2025. Because they’re already freaking out with the cutbacks and the DOGE-ness and all that sort of thing. Isn’t that interesting? Doesn’t DODE feel like forever ago, and yet it was just 6 months.  But anyway, some of those things are coming home to roost.

Also, on the international front, what’s interesting is how many of the American trading partners are already gearing up for any of Trump’s  the effects on tariffs. Many people will face a lot of rising prices, which is why we suggest that they’ve been through November and into that first 6 months of the year, as we said.

We think that, on the Left the anger, the raising of resentment into anger, into action is actually in play, and rolling forward, and happening for a lot of Trump’s supporters, we unfortunately think that you’re going to see more violence and incidences. And then what will happen in 2025, when the Warrior year hits. You’re going to see more Left… Left-oriented incidences of violence, not just Luigi taking out an insurance company CEO.

And so, the ramifications are going to feel like, for most of you actually, just mostly higher prices. And you’ll have the permission to pay, and if you want to tell you that, right now,  the systems that are in play are not at desperation levels of collapse. But the politicking and the feeling of psychological, sociological overload,  that has collapsed to it; that has social breakdown.

We can tell you that the admirals of industry raised from captains You don’t have too much control of markets now, because they own too much of it to actually let a disintegration happen. Because that’s… those are their that’s their funds, right? As far as they’re concerned. So they’re not going to let that kind of massive, major diminishment happened, even though they could certainly let some.

Anyway, we did that answer some of your questions?

Kathryn: Thank you.

Michael Consortium:  Certainly, certainly.   Jillian you’re up next.

Jillian: Thanks.   Some things that have come up today that are very concerning, the president has asked the Supreme Court to allow him to unilaterally take away birthright citizenship today. Also he has indicated that he unilaterally wants to close down Act Blue and other ways for leftist organizations to get funds together.

Is there any read that would indicate that the Supreme Court wouldn’t let him get away with that?

Michael Consortium: We think  it’ll be a 5-4 against.  You know both Kavanaugh who’s the Chief Justice won’t go quite that far, that they will not allow the birthright citizenship to happen. Believe it or not Kavanaugh as much as a loose cannon he is  because there’s repercussions that he fears that could grow of that, that he doesn’t want to have effect on him, even as a court justice.

But the Act Blue, I don’t think that they’re going to take his request, so it’s going to continue essentially in a limbo. And he will do things to sabotage it and use other court means, but the Supreme Court doesn’t look like they’re going to intervene on that one. But he’s still going to keep attacking it, obviously.

Jillian: Well, if they don’t intervene, he can shut it down. Thank you.

Michael Consortium: Who’s next? Anyone else?  Well, since we have quiet in the troops and we seemingly sober faces. And some dining experiences.

Kerrin: We’re so beaten down, I think.

Michael Consortium: That’s… that’s understandable  The weight of the current era … the last time the Mature Soul energy actually took a big thrust forward was during the Depression. It was tried to be countered by fascism and the Second World War. You guys haven’t gotten to the Third World War yet.

The thrust forward that happened in the 60s and 70s of Mature Soul policies and  have  had longer to take root. And a lot more people as Kathryn was talking about when she said pensioners, that has also taken root more.  And the most hardy party capitalist free marketer libertarian can’t deny the amount of economic underpinning that it does.

But from a social standpoint, from a feeling of heaviness, and that self-censorship, and the feelings of impending doom and violence that is in the air which creates a constant, exhausting state of anxiety. That of course is the absolutely difficulty that everyone feels.  And of course that’s the kind of state of fear, to quote I guess it was Patterson’s novel of several years ago that they are really trying to develop. The likelihood of violence on the state level may actually come from ICE, and him trying to use the Army and cities and so forth.

But the real fear he wants to unleash his neighbor against neighbor because then that would give him the excuse.  But where that goes, it’s all in creation.

Kathryn you had another question?  1:14:35

Kathryn: Yes, World War III?  Third World War. What are the probabilities for that and timelines at this point of time?

Michael Consortium:  Well, the Third World War is not the kind that will be total nuclear destruction. It will be much more cyber destruction, would be much more population-displacements. Actually attacks on physical infrastructures and power grids all those kind of things than ever before.

Kathryn: kind of disturbing.

Michael Consortium:  It is disturbing and I don’t want to say it’s inevitable, but we were talking about the kind of ways the probabilistic and projections of…you’ve probably heard,  I believe it was Mark Twain who said “history may not repeat itself, but it certainly rhymes. And that’s what we’re referring to, that the rhyme scheme of it. It’s not the same kind of warfare that you had in the first two wars, which permitted a lot of human being to go fight each other.  And it’s not going to be the thermal nuclear type either. It is likely to be destabilization. And again, people,  almost recurring to feral states, even in fairly technologically advanced countries.

Kathryn:  That is a very frightening scenario. That will be a lot of deaths.

Michael Consortium:  It is, it is. And even though it is not in the main trunks of what we see, we are saying that all the precursors are there in the mix.  So, whereas people might have thought that’ll never happen. It’s not true anymore. Yes, it can.

But is it likely to? Still no. It’s not likely to. Because there are enough of you who are pushing against. There are enough of you are in the mix trying to undercut and resisting. The resistance may have to be wrapped up and it definitely will be in the 2026 year.

Kathryn:  Okay, thank you.

Michael Consortium: So, Jillian were you the next one or was there someone before you?

Kathryn:  Brad

Michael Consortium: Oh, Brad, okay, so Brad, go ahead, and then Jillian.

Brad: Right, right. Hi, Steve. Well, that’s Michael, yes.

Michael Consortium: That’s alright. We go by all of it.

Brad: Just one thing in particular. By the way, could you possibly mute me? My wife… Lori, is here too, and I’m hearing my echo.  I was wondering about Hegseth, the mass of military and generals that he’s wanting to have this really big get-together. I don’t remember which state it’s in, but it’s unprecedented.

Michael Consortium:   Virginia.

Brad:  In Virginia, any idea about what on earth that is, and the potential dangers involved with what he’s trying to do?

Michael Consortium:   Well, it’s going to work against him we can tell you that. What he’s doing is he is marking territory, he’s loyalty testing. He is going to fire some of the  top military brass outright.  But it’s going to send such shock waves

Only about 45% of the American military think ultra-conservative. Meaning 3 quarters of even the leadership does not. They’re smelling the coffee and going along keeping the status quo. But there’ll be a tipping point.

Hegseth who you know is an incredibly self-absorbed Artisan Moving Center jock who loves his aggressive quality, especially on people that are weaker than him when he actually exerts that on people who are actually stronger than him. Yes, he’s got the authority from a position standpoint, but what he will destabilize in his own real authority, and then the world of perception will work against him.

But that’s when it’s about. It’s a loyalty testing, and it’s him climbing on the top, saying,  “I’m the boss”.   It’s essentially what Hitler did with his generals from the transition from the Weimar republic into his regime.

Yeah, this is all of this as Jillian pointed out this year, in the first quarter all of this is in alignment with the philosophy and the touch points of Project 2025. All of it. And they’ve done a good job and we harken back to the term complexity. Most of the people who participated and voting for Trump, they didn’t anything about this. They just were too ignorant, too unwilling, and didn’t prepare.  It was just about, “me, me, me” for them.  So all of the bigger ramifications are now coming home to roost for them across the board.

And this is going to be one of them, because a lot of those people come from states where they’re revered and respected, and even these red state people will look at it and go, ”Oh my God, you know, this general, he’s from our state. He’s been doing this for this and that  and he’s just got fired.” That’ll create a wave of undermining confidence for a lot more people adding to this, these number of straws that are quickly and slowly breaking the camel’s back.

So that’s what we see about that, Brad.

Brad: Right. Thanks.

Michael Consortium:  Certainly. Jillian, we believe you’re next.  1:22:00

Jillian:  Yeah, thanks.  Going back to Project 2025, and specifically around white Christian nationalism. Which is, you know 2025 is the blueprint for that, essentially. It feels like it got a huge lift out of the Charlie Kirk assassination.  I understand they’re going to make a coin with him. Anyway… Whatever…

I guess the question I have is Americans have been so, for 250 years actually more than that, have been kind of cranky about people telling us what our religion should be.  And I’m wondering, are people actually going to stand up and push back on this?

I’m a little worried, because I’m on the left, and we don’t have guns. But just on a principled situation at what point do people either say, “Okay, run me over, or I’m not going to stand up for it ?”  I’m not going to stand for it; I’m going to stand up.

I mean, my congressman yesterday said that his concern is that we’re going to end up  with martial law. He was very, very blunt about feeling that was what was going to happen. And they’re doing a lot of this in the name of white Christian nationalism. I’m wondering if that going to be the anchor that they’ll use, and how successful would that be?

Michael Consortium: You called it correctly, naming it as an anchor, and concentrating it around it. And interestingly enough, like all Baby souls, you know, there are many Baby souls who are afraid of their own movement. But they don’t want to say anything to disagree. And they would trot out their own guns, actually more to protect themselves, but not make waves against thinking that they’d be the bad guys unfortunately.

Because a lot of Young souls out there who thought, or who viewed all this as just more of a money-making or establishing or reconfirming our power in the world and the ego of that who will just look at this and just go, “Shit. I like some of these people that they’re telling us; I got to shoot.” Or, if not shoot that are going to be taken away. That’s already been happening little by little. You’ve seen some backlash and resistance to the ICE and these kind of things.

But the likelihood of it,  as we said, when we talked about this Third World War, it’s going to happen, what’ll trigger it way first will be America’s internal implosion. As far as its internal implosion won’t mean rolling over and giving in to Donald Trump and the Right. It will mean that there will be what’s likely to be, what will be called or thought of as the Civil War.

And as far as, you know, you on the left not having guns, that is what we call for earlier, when we said, looking at your masculine energy, and doing things that, really say, “Okay, what would I kill for? What will I die for?”

Our review of history has been such that when there have been say, Mature Soul or Old Soul cultures like the Tibetans and the Chinese, that came in their commitment to Buddhism was so great that they were like lambs to the slaughter.  And in a way, it was very principled and it was certainly based on their religious tenets much more with integrity than most of what these white nationalist Christians are.

White Nationalist Christians many of them are really younger that way.  They should be called White Monetarist Christians  Christ didn’t chase anybody out of the temple with a bullwhip. He actually took up and helped organized a corporation, and that’s the way they’ve kind of been brainwashed to believe.

Well there will be resistance. Will it be initial, no. The left to continue to try and do, stand on principle, stand on law, stand on love. As you can see, Trump getting bolder and bolder, about standing up against court decrees, and so forth. Then, because he has the most of the Supreme Court just rubber stamping his blank checks, that he has manipulated them into his pocket. Well, that will also not be able to be withstood. People will finally get angry and they will… But unfortunately, the left has a long fuse.

And as we said, you could even say that… Let’s talk about, say, the new age human  potential movement as the counter to Christian white Christian nationalism. It was kumbaya, love everyone. As these more and more hard lines were evolving over the course of the last 40, 45 years, everyone said, “Well, we just said love and light, and that they will see the light and come into that”, and so forth.  But not accounting for the fact that this huge gulf in the economics of society were happening.

And those people who were at the effect of the losses, were also the ones who were much more likely already to become Christian extremists. Their Christianity might have been genuine to them, but it was… it was old styled, more simple, sinless, personal,  fire and brimstone, but go to the Church. Go to the church picnic, support the local high school, get involved in your community.

Now there’s so much segregation and so much hatred involved that has been mixed into that very skillfully that a lot of the ignorant people have been caught up into it. And they’re just terrified, and they’re like the Baby souls we said. They’re like deer in the headlights with guns.

Those on the liberal side of the equation are mostly later Young souls most mature souls, but not all, because there’s a number of Mature souls who got on board with Trump, and even some Old souls who got on board wanting to believe in Messianic religiosity, again. And deciding to see him as that. Now we can tell you they’re operating from a much, earlier soul age point of view without a lot of consciousness or reality behind it. But nonetheless, they are still Old souls and some Mature souls.

The rest of you went along trying to move forward, trying to acquire things, and living a good life of consumerism. It’s hard not to enjoy creature comforts. There’s no shame in that.  But the overwhelming surround of the milieu of creature comforts that has gone from the 60s and 70s, when there was a lot of still local production in the world, or excuse me, in the United States., having stuff go overseas, And then  jobs  go to services, much lower paying jobs, then disbanding of unions, and all those sort of things, for people who got left behind are the ones who are primarily the MAGAS.

We realize that we said a lot in regard to this and the bottom line is the conflict is still rising. People will have to take a stand or be rolled over. And that was what we said when we invited everyone to get ahead of the curve.  Look at your own masculine energy and say, what will I kill for, what will I die for, what will I sacrificed for?

But the fourth one we didn’t mention, which needs to be, is like with the Tibetans did. They just rolled over and went numb and were obliterated. And that served no one. That’s serve no one because you’re dealing with a conscience-less group.

Gandhi in India had the British and the British culture which had a conscience. And they eventually had to relent because they couldn’t deal with the degree which they were becoming the animals.

This culture in this country, and Hitler in that country don’t have that conscience at all.

Kerrin, I believe your next.   1:31:40

Kerrin: I just want to chime in on what Jillian was talking about with the evangelical Christians. And then I had another question, a quick question. Hopefully it’s a quick question because I follow a lot of YouTube, you know, left-leaning YouTube podcasters and so on who follow some of the right-wing podcasters, and they were posting some of the comments,  that came in after Charlie Kirk’s memorial. It didn’t seem to have the  rallying effect on the Right that I think they were expecting. Some of them were really put off. They were like, “What the hell was that?”

I mean, Stephen Miller, I think, made them all puke. I couldn’t even watch that.  Even the evangelicals said what he’s saying was spewing hate. They were criticizing Erica Kirk because she looked like a performance. They were really kind of disgusted by the whole thing, hugging, like, it was just gross to them.  So I’m like, well, that’s encouraging that maybe some of them are seeing that some things are not right here.

Then my question was I want to ask about Tyler Robinson because there’s a lot of speculation that he was paid to do the shooting. There’s somebody else funding it because they learned all about the dark web and the Groipers, and all these gross tunnels that young men get into in on Discord, and there’s other ones. And they’re roomed in there and certain dark forces can come in and find the right person. They learn, they’re a good shot, etc.

So I’m just curious asking Michael, is there something… is this just a disgruntled young man? Or is it somebody… is there something else behind this?

Michael Consortium: Oh no, we actually think that with some investigation, which will in the next 10 years, never come to light, but we actually think that Trump’s organization itself had Charlie Kirk eliminated with the full idea and full  hand-wringing clever strategy, and it truly has worked, obviously. First of all, you get rid of person who was getting to be a pill in their side because he was his own form of fanatic, Charlie Kirk.  But on top of that, he was popular enough, and he had enough of a name recognition that if they kill him, make him a martyr and they could bank off of it.  And they have, they’ve looked at doing that.

But what’s interesting is you pointed out is that there’s been a recoil, a pull back of a lot of people’s hate mongering and frothing at the mouth about him as just a victim and so forth. That is to say Charlie Kirk.  And the fact that a lot of people look at this young man, what they can find out, because it’s so now cut off from public scrutiny. He didn’t have the wherewithal. Yeah he was a good shot, but all the organization and planning and setup and like that wasn’t in his wheelhouse. So, yeah, he was, he was a stooge for other forces and other people.

Kerrin: I knew it.

Kathryn: Is that why he’s not cooperating?

Kerrin: It’s interesting that he’s not cooperating because, in fact, now he’s having second thoughts about saving his own skin. And  we have to tell you, we wouldn’t be surprised if …

Kathryn: He ends up dead.

Kerrin: He has a suicide?

Michael Consortium: If Mr., like, Mr. Epstein…commits suicide, right. You wouldn’t be surprised.

Kerrin: Well, Kirk was calling for the Epstein file, so… Trump would be like, okay, he’s got to go.

Michael Consortium: Yes, exactly. And that’s one of the things that’s been very interesting that has partially fractured, the Right, the Epstein files. The Ultra-Orthodox Christians. They’re just Christians by name, who are just white and bright, and so they say, “Well, yeah, Jesus brought it all in”, so they’ll hide behind Jesus. But they couldn’t give a crap about anything that has to do with real faith.

But there is that segment of the uneducated part of the Republican Party that we talked about that was really affected economically or hit your knees what denomination are you, hold on to the good book like it was your last dollar devoutness. In other words, it’s the ultimate authority, right? And they’re the ones who are going, “Wait a minute, you promised. We’re going to find out about the sinner.”  And more and more of them are getting loud and clear that the only reason that they hold these files back is because he’s in there.  And it will be proven that he is the worst kind of sinner that they’re supposed to hate.

You know, that’s done their…

Kerrin: String of unintelligible comments about Epstein files

Kathryn:  The felonies were not sex with little girls.

Michael Consortium: Exactly.

Kerrin: He was going on trial for that, but right before he was elected.

Kathryn Yeah, yeah.

Kerrin: And they had a girl drop it, because she’s probably, you know, death threats, and her whole family threatened, and…

Jillian: a 14-year-old withdrew her suit because she was being intimidated.

I had just one thing, a short thing, Steve,  which is  as we’re looking at all of this and  Kerri has talked about the podcast she listens to and the ones I do too. Charlie Kirk had 1.8 million followers and Heather Cox Richardson, every night, has more than 3.5 million readers, and that doesn’t include her YouTube channel, and it doesn’t include her Blue Sky.

So there are people out there who are being educated. I’m really curious about where Heather Cox Richardson comes in, because she’s such an important figure. That’s where I get my encouragement. If you put it all together, it’s about 5 million people who follow her every day, and are learning facts. And  hopefully that’s going to help us  to wait  to ride these waves    I guess my only question is where does Heather Cox Richardson come in?  But I think that you know that she’s the ultimate scholar but I don’t know the rest of her of her chart. I’d probably be able to figure it out, but

Michael Consortium: Well, she’s also a Stoic and her ability to come across as absolutely even-handed. And so when she does have an emotion in her thing people know that it’s not contrived. So, in other words, the wavelength and the vibration that people get off of her is so clear and so clean.

Now, there are those in-betweeners  who would never listen to her that are starting to get the trickle down from some of her stuff to other people, who are otherwise on the fringes. And so, she represents in our terminology of positions in groups, she is an integrator figure.  That’s what she does extremely well. The integrator is the next octave up to the knowledge position in the support positions.

And the integrator literally  is the one that calls all this together, and as far as giving people hope, we would say is, is in giving people knowledge people are building their own hope, which is a comment we’d like to say to you folks.  Is that we really encourage you to take your anger and say, “I’m going to be hopeful” even just to spite them.  Because the more that people say, oh, I’ve got to see evidence to bake my hope on, and that’s a learned helplessness. And that’s a dependency.

And what literally got the United States through World War II was Franklin Roosevelt’s fireside chats, reminding everybody, having everyone raise their vibration. Raise their frequency.  And times were much tougher then. The United States was still coming out of the depression. People weren’t near as educated. But he made it so what the world that was going on, they could see it.

The complexity of the world right now is serving against most people, because most people feel overwhelmed by too much information.  And possibly even tonight, our talk we might be adding to that.

But with Heather Cox Richardson her ability to synthesize, integrate, and then relate in a completely feasible manner that is unthreatening.  Her persona is unthreatening and so, even fringe people who are in opposition will pause and take a picture, take a page   The Lincoln Project  and Bulwark, and the remained of the so-called true conservatives reference her all the time now.  Because what she says is, you know, is so not only so factually correct in the examples that she brings up, both in historical precedent and in current events, but her synthesis of it is so clear and understandable in so many levels.

Jillian: and objective.

Michael Consortium: Well, and objective,  yeah, she doesn’t put a big spin on her own liberalism as you, as you well know, she calls herself a Lincoln Republican.  And that’s one of the things that she’s glad to say too.  She wishes people would stop the oversimplification and go back in history and realize that the names of parties may have switched or may have stayed the same, but the content of their parties have flipped almost 180 degrees. et cetera, et cetera, so…

In any case  that’s why her words  for those of you who do active thinking, we want you to know that the probabilities are still better, and still leaning toward humanity getting out of this, and you in this country not coming up unscathed. There’s going to be violence, there’s going to be hardship, there’s going to be intensity, but not falling under dictatorship. That’s still the 51%. But it’s now up to 49% and potentially growing.

What’s going to stop it is your choice of actions or your inactions. But the good news is, is some of the choice of actions are coming from the defections of his allies. Not as power base allies, the ones who have a public face so much.  Even though Blackbird Marjorie Taylor Greene, that Baby Soul Sage is just down in her own stew.  But still  there are fractures. And there are people of his base that are doing it

The people that you know and you’ve set it yourself, Jillian. I’ll give you credit for this, is the people that are like behind the J.D. Vances that don’t care if Trump lives or dies. They’re ready to jump in and just take it all over and have Vance is their ultimate stooge.

Donald Trump is too much of a megalomaniac, and insane and unpredictable to be controlled, but he does enough crazy things that it works for them anyway, so they’re just biding their time. It’s those persons and those aspects that you have to prepare for behind the scenes. Or they would be brought up  as a second wave because right now, Trumps  health, idiocy, and so forth is diminishing. His idiocy is increasing and his capacity is diminishing.

Jillian / Kerrin: And today it turned out that Teal and Steve Bannon and Elon Musk were all associated with Epstein.

Various back and forth comments: The F… Knocked me over with a feather. Really? My smelling salt!  Where’s my pearls to clutch? I can say dirty words on account, I’m a lady. Who’s the law switching?  So, yeah. Karen and I are pretty, you know, weak and helpless.

Kathryn: It would be the arsenic and the sugar in the tea.

Michael Consortium:  Right. Yeah. It’s very hard to imagine you two women as Southern Bells, passively being surprised maybe with a musket in your hands.  Pointing it at the   shall we say family jewels of those otherwise offenders. But  it’s hard to imagine taking on the personas.

Yes, very good. That’s very good. Now that’s the Shadow that we talk about.

It’s okay to make light of that killer behind the scenes saying you want to own my power? Gt on us. Because otherwise, a lot of those people…We saw bumper sticker recently that said, “I can hardly wait for the big, beautiful obituary.”

I mean, there’s an example of that kind of… and it’s a sense of humor, but it’s also a repressed Shadow. And then it actually doesn’t do much in the way of good, except inflamed their Shadows.

So, ladies and gentlemen we’re getting close to 7 o’clock, and we’re not seeing anyone raising a hand for additional questions. We’re going to assume that all of you are thoroughly  blown over, blown away, hopefully not blown up. Otherwise  felt like what you got tonight empowered you more than disempowered you.

As always, we wish you blessings, and we wish you strength.

We wish you the highest vibration that you could attain, and the way to do that is to confront, come to terms with your Shadows  You don’t have to limit them, you don’t have to kill them off, you don’t have to pretend they don’t exist. You just own them. You just own them. They’re part of you, they’re energy. Everything in the universe has protons and electrons. They both circle around the nucleus of you. Don’t deny one in favor of the other thinking that you’re going to become more powerful that way.  It does not work that way.

So, in any case, we hope that’s been of use to you tonight. It’s been a pleasure to have you all here. Thank you for your time and your patience.

And all we can say is please enjoy your remainder of the year be as flamboyant, just creative, and self-expressive as you feel you can be or you want to be. And find ways to make energy and share it.

And with that, we will say goodnight.